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The "GF" comment after fights
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Sylphy
TSOE Po1ice
TSOE Consortium
#1 - 2014-02-12 15:08:38 UTC
Let's imagine 11 bruisers, with baseball bats, axes, knives and all kinds of other blunt/edged weapons descend upon a minor, - toothless, without arms and a lame leg. He can't run, he can't fight back, all he can do is scream incoherently hoping someone in the local community will hear and help.

The outcome is, predictable. The minor is beaten/hacked/smashed into a bloody pulp. Visual image of biomass or pod goo.

Why would anyone participating in that fight (in this case, two of the agressors), comment with "GF".

What about that single fight deserved merit of being a "good fight" ? Can someone explain me this. It wouldn't be bad if he said "good slaugher" or "good gank" or "good wtfpwn", those would seem fitting, but.. "good fight", really?

This isn't a whine, or so-called tears. It's a question of what deserves the merit of a good fight, asking the community.
I put it in this section because I can't seem to find a good fit for it anyplace else.

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Effect One
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2014-02-12 15:13:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Effect One
'GF' in Eve is akin to a 'lol' in casual text chat. It is a worthless, meaningless acknowledgement (in this case that someone got exploded).

Nothing more, nothing less.

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Sylphy
TSOE Po1ice
TSOE Consortium
#3 - 2014-02-12 15:18:31 UTC
So nothing to do with good sporstmanship, where you congratulate your opponent - even if that said opponent outwitted/smarted/skilled you with a lesser ship - on a job well done. It was a match you enjoyed, had fun and hopefully, learned something new.

Surely you're joking.

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Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#4 - 2014-02-12 15:32:43 UTC
Sylphy wrote:
So nothing to do with good sporstmanship, where you congratulate your opponent - even if that said opponent outwitted/smarted/skilled you with a lesser ship - on a job well done. It was a match you enjoyed, had fun and hopefully, learned something new.

Surely you're joking.


yeah unfortunately welcome to eve where there are douches abundant, you cant trust so called new players either as most are someones alt and the real new players get lured into traps and scams. Very few people that arent a training corp actually try to legitimately help people. The rest are just in it for the tears as they live in their parents basement or attic

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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#5 - 2014-02-12 15:35:52 UTC
Agondray wrote:
Sylphy wrote:
So nothing to do with good sporstmanship, where you congratulate your opponent - even if that said opponent outwitted/smarted/skilled you with a lesser ship - on a job well done. It was a match you enjoyed, had fun and hopefully, learned something new.

Surely you're joking.


yeah unfortunately welcome to eve where there are douches abundant, you cant trust so called new players either as most are someones alt and the real new players get lured into traps and scams. Very few people that arent a training corp actually try to legitimately help people. The rest are just in it for the tears as they live in their parents basement or attic




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Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-02-12 15:46:04 UTC
Not sure what some of these other posts are, but when I GF in local, its exactly what it means. Good fight. When I win, when I lose. Mostly, its just a mutual courtesy from both parties acknowledging no hard feelings or tears.

In your case, if you are talking about a gank, they are trolling you. They wanted you to do exactly what you did, which is come into the hornets nest and post about it, or cry in local.

The best thing you can do after getting ganked? GF back. They wont have much to go on if you do that, and you may find that some of them are actually very helpful once you prove your not a crybaby. After I gank missioners, if they are cool about it, I advise them of what they could have done better, what they could have looked out for, ect. Sometimes I even give them a chance to join up and actually PLAY EVE rather than shoot red crosses.

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Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
#7 - 2014-02-12 15:46:16 UTC
Effect One wrote:
'GF' in Eve is akin to a 'lol' in casual text chat. It is a worthless, meaningless acknowledgement (in this case that someone got exploded).

Nothing more, nothing less.


I would agree. It's also a good indication that you understand game mechanics and generally don't care that you lost a ship.

For people that feed on tears it's a good indication that the target will either stonewall or make light of the situation which means they may be interesting to talk to socially.

An immediate private convo, or bitching in local is essentially throwing blood in the water around feeding sharks. They now havee incentive to come back and eat here again. As it was delicious.
Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2014-02-12 16:07:17 UTC
Sylphy wrote:
So nothing to do with good sporstmanship, where you congratulate your opponent - even if that said opponent outwitted/smarted/skilled you with a lesser ship - on a job well done. It was a match you enjoyed, had fun and hopefully, learned something new.

Surely you're joking.


It is for the same reason the guy in mcdonalds says "have a nice day" even though he doesn't give a ****.
It is called politeness. Even ganks take time to set up and miners have ways to avoid them.
stop being churlish and just GF in local.

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Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#9 - 2014-02-12 17:07:36 UTC
When I was a kid, I was on a soccer team. At the end of every match, the coaches would line up both teams, and you would slap everybody's hand and say, "good game." The "gf" is exactly the same kind of gesture. My soccer coach called it "sportsmanship".

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Paul Tsukaya
Doomheim
#10 - 2014-02-12 17:46:42 UTC
Sometimes it's said seriously, sometimes people are just trolling though.

If it's the later and you're posting this thread, then they accomplished the desired effect Lol
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
When Fleets Collide
#11 - 2014-02-12 17:47:34 UTC
Haedonism Bot wrote:
When I was a kid, I was on a soccer team. At the end of every match, the coaches would line up both teams, and you would slap everybody's hand and say, "good game." The "gf" is exactly the same kind of gesture. My soccer coach called it "sportsmanship".


Care to elaborate?
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-02-12 17:58:08 UTC
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Haedonism Bot wrote:
When I was a kid, I was on a soccer team. At the end of every match, the coaches would line up both teams, and you would slap everybody's hand and say, "good game." The "gf" is exactly the same kind of gesture. My soccer coach called it "sportsmanship".


Care to elaborate?


Elaborate what? Its a complete thought as-is.

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Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
When Fleets Collide
#13 - 2014-02-12 18:04:18 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Elaborate what? Its a complete thought as-is.


What's the relevance though?
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2014-02-12 18:09:08 UTC
That saying "GF" to your opponent is just like saying "Good game" to the opposing team after you play. Being a good sport... sportsmanship...

Better?

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Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#15 - 2014-02-12 18:10:41 UTC
i will GF for an actual fight.

No need to GF someone you exploded in your gatecamp or caught with their pants down.

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Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
When Fleets Collide
#16 - 2014-02-12 18:12:00 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
That saying "GF" to your opponent is just like saying "Good game" to the opposing team after you play. Being a good sport... sportsmanship...

Better?


That's just a repeat of what he said. Forget that I asked.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#17 - 2014-02-12 18:41:38 UTC
I am of the opinion that failure to acknowledge your opponent is what truly constitutes poor sportsmanship.

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Pew Terror
All of it
#18 - 2014-02-12 18:43:03 UTC
Shocked

I always thought it meant: "Get F$#@ed"
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2014-02-12 18:46:55 UTC
Pew Terror wrote:
Shocked

I always thought it meant: "Get F$#@ed"


Holy ****! That is the ugliest thing I have ever seen... your avatar looks like a mix of Michael Jackson and the chick from "The Ring".

Yikes.

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Winchester Steele
#20 - 2014-02-12 19:03:41 UTC
Agondray wrote:
Sylphy wrote:
So nothing to do with good sporstmanship, where you congratulate your opponent - even if that said opponent outwitted/smarted/skilled you with a lesser ship - on a job well done. It was a match you enjoyed, had fun and hopefully, learned something new.

Surely you're joking.


yeah unfortunately welcome to eve where there are douches abundant, you cant trust so called new players either as most are someones alt and the real new players get lured into traps and scams. Very few people that arent a training corp actually try to legitimately help people. The rest are just in it for the tears as they live in their parents basement or attic



Lol. Your an angry little sperglord arent you? Maybe Eve isn't the right game for you?

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