These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

Wormholes

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
12Next page
 

Sleeper sensor changes

First post
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Obil Que
Star Explorers
Solis Tenebris
#1 - 2014-02-12 16:00:29 UTC
Out of game right now but saw this in the patch notes:

Quote:
Sleepers

Sleeper craft have received much needed sensor upgrades and can now detect and process threats across great distances. They’re watching you. Always.
Sleeper reinforcement protocols have been improved to reduce unsightly clustering.


Anyone know in practical terms what this means?
Glyndi
Doom Generation
Best Intentions.
#2 - 2014-02-12 16:04:02 UTC
.....maybe escalation will spawn before capitals land on grid?
TXG SYNC
Dad Jokes R Us
#3 - 2014-02-12 16:31:00 UTC
We've long exploited a bug in Sleeper AI that allowed us to keep gas harvesting when Sleeper battleships had spawned in certain sites if we were positioned correctly on the opposite side of the gas from the Sleeper spawn. Betting it has something to do with that, but we're trying to figure it out for sure right now!

A part of me hopes that this actually means there will be pseudo-random spawns on top of you while running sites. That would make things much more interesting.
Alli Ginthur
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-02-12 16:35:46 UTC
I wonder if this will make jamming site triggers harder. Probably will depend on how much the sensors were "upgraded"
HTC NecoSino
Suddenly Carebears
#5 - 2014-02-12 16:38:39 UTC
Quote:
Sleeper reinforcement protocols have been improved to reduce unsightly clustering.


My guess would be greater spacing, reducing sleeper BS getting alpha'd when they keep bumping with a 0 velocity.
Angsty Teenager
Broski North
#6 - 2014-02-12 17:30:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Angsty Teenager
Yea, I'm pretty sure this has to do with the fact that sleepers won't aggro sometimes depending on your range from them. Pretty annoying since I hate having to kill/jam the stupid triggers.

Hopefully it's not this though, I haven't tested it.

Edit: I didn't really read the "cluttering" part, my god if that means that the cap escalation waves will no longer spawn at 0 when you warp to your bookmark, I'm literally going to ragequit.
Le'Mon Tichim
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2014-02-12 17:40:23 UTC
Angsty Teenager wrote:
Yea, I'm pretty sure this has to do with the fact that sleepers won't aggro sometimes depending on your range from them. Pretty annoying since I hate having to kill/jam the stupid triggers.

Hopefully it's not this though, I haven't tested it.

Edit: I didn't really read the "cluttering" part, my god if that means that the cap escalation waves will no longer spawn at 0 when you warp to your bookmark, I'm literally going to ragequit.



Stop being bad?


I consider it a blessing from Bob when my Revelation can use Multi and the sleeper is inside optimal, instead of the edge of falloff.

Can you hear them? They are calling to us. It is beautiful. http://thegreattichim.wordpress.com/
Setsune Rin
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2014-02-12 18:16:38 UTC
Angsty Teenager wrote:
I didn't really read the "cluttering" part, my god if that means that the cap escalation waves will no longer spawn at 0 when you warp to your bookmark, I'm literally going to ragequit.


i'm interpeting it the same way, warp @ 0 bookmarks getting screwed

i'll drop a cap on sisi to see what happened
Aderoth Anstian
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2014-02-12 18:23:22 UTC
Can we get a Dev to throw us a bone here? The information in the patch notes is about as non-specific as it gets.
Kalel Nimrott
Caldari Provisions
#10 - 2014-02-12 19:19:29 UTC
We don't get devs in here other than to troll us. Its wspace.

Bob Artis, you will be missed.

O7
CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#11 - 2014-02-12 21:28:57 UTC
It's pretty much exactly what it sounds like.
In practical terms, Sleepers in many sites will now select and attack targets within a much larger area, and escalations will be (ever so slightly) more spread out.

Won't be anything groundshaking for most of you. The big change will be for those players who were taking advantage of certain specific aggression bugs.

Game Designer | Team Five-0

Twitter: @CCP_Fozzie
Twitch chat: ccp_fozzie
Aderoth Anstian
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2014-02-12 21:35:35 UTC
Thanks for the clarification Fozzie
Bane Nucleus
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#13 - 2014-02-12 21:52:12 UTC
Fozzie: Wormhome Dev?

No trolling please
HTC NecoSino
Suddenly Carebears
#14 - 2014-02-12 22:00:54 UTC
Bane Nucleus wrote:
Fozzie: Wormhome Dev?


WH-dev, best-dev.
He does seem to be the only dev responding to WH-related content, doesn't he?

Nice seeing you earlier Bane, btw.
Bane Nucleus
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#15 - 2014-02-12 22:05:15 UTC
HTC NecoSino wrote:
Bane Nucleus wrote:
Fozzie: Wormhome Dev?


WH-dev, best-dev.
He does seem to be the only dev responding to WH-related content, doesn't he?

Nice seeing you earlier Bane, btw.


It was terrible seeing you! P

And yes, Fozzie is the only one who seems to be responding in the wh part of the forums.

No trolling please
Angsty Teenager
Broski North
#16 - 2014-02-12 23:58:43 UTC
Hngh fozzie pls

Can somebody check and see how the capital escalation waves are affect with regard to spawn distance?

>tfw might have to start using a loki again, oh god
jonnykefka
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
#17 - 2014-02-13 05:17:49 UTC
Find out for yourself, we already did :)

(it's NBD)
AssassinationsdoneWrong
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#18 - 2014-02-13 07:03:45 UTC
Angsty Teenager wrote:
Hngh fozzie pls

Can somebody check and see how the capital escalation waves are affect with regard to spawn distance?

>tfw might have to start using a loki again, oh god


You need someone else to check for you and you'll ragequit if they changed anything about the escalation spawns?? Rather than figure out yourself what has changed and then adapt to it accordingly?

Le sigh


The Nexus 7's

What we fall short of in numbers we more than make up for in stupidity
Angsty Teenager
Broski North
#19 - 2014-02-13 10:53:33 UTC
AssassinationsdoneWrong wrote:

You need someone else to check for you...
Le sigh




See I need this because none of my characters are in a wormhole in a cap. So it's impossible for me to test unless I want to scan a WH, go inside, and test it, then come back out, which I can do, but I don't care to because I'm quite busy enough with other things.
MonkeyMagic Thiesant
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2014-02-13 13:18:29 UTC  |  Edited by: MonkeyMagic Thiesant
CCP Fozzie wrote:

Won't be anything groundshaking for most of you. The big change will be for those players who were taking advantage of certain specific aggression bugs.


Haha.

*tries to look innocent*

*fails*



Twas prolly needed though. It was kinda silly that you could solo both top-end gas sites with a single poorly skilled subcap. Even sillier: anyone warping to attack you would land near the sleepers and promptly get slammed, so you were essentially being guarded by the npcs ............ you could more or less afk as a result.


At one point I had 5 accounts nomadding from c5 to c5 - given how empty most of them are, you can hoover gas basically all day with minimal risk. One hole had 3 instrumentals, 2 cores, total over 2bn worth. Not really justifiable given you're only risking crappy little ventures - and even then they can often escape given their builtin stabs and speed with pre-heated mwd, like when I got bubbled after stealing all the gas in blood union's static :p
12Next page