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Loan request - Teach me how it works
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RAW23
#21 - 2014-02-12 16:05:58 UTC
accidental post

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.
The BlackPrince
Inner Visions
#22 - 2014-02-12 16:15:26 UTC
That's alright Grendell.

The purpose of this thread is mainly to get some answers to a few questions of mine. I have yet to decide if I want to ask for a loan. Also due to the fact that my corporation hold a decent amount of other assets would I not be willing to hand over the CEO roles.

Currently building carriers and rorquals. Contact me for a cheap capital ship.
Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
#23 - 2014-02-12 16:21:23 UTC
The BlackPrince wrote:
That's alright Grendell.

The purpose of this thread is mainly to get some answers to a few questions of mine. I have yet to decide if I want to ask for a loan. Also due to the fact that my corporation hold a decent amount of other assets would I not be willing to hand over the CEO roles.



Best advice I could give would be to move the bpos to another corp for the duration of the loan if you are not comfortable having me CEO of that main corp. You could also provide other forums of collateral, just about anything else works.

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The BlackPrince
Inner Visions
#24 - 2014-02-12 16:23:48 UTC
Grendell wrote:
The BlackPrince wrote:
That's alright Grendell.

The purpose of this thread is mainly to get some answers to a few questions of mine. I have yet to decide if I want to ask for a loan. Also due to the fact that my corporation hold a decent amount of other assets would I not be willing to hand over the CEO roles.



Best advice I could give would be to move the bpos to another corp for the duration of the loan if you are not comfortable having me CEO of that main corp. You could also provide other forums of collateral, just about anything else works.


Given that this sort of deal is mainly based around trust (especially towards the thrid party) is there any reason why you can't just hold on to the BPO's while the loan is active?

Currently building carriers and rorquals. Contact me for a cheap capital ship.
flakeys
Doomheim
#25 - 2014-02-12 16:45:20 UTC  |  Edited by: flakeys
The BlackPrince wrote:
Grendell wrote:
The BlackPrince wrote:
That's alright Grendell.

The purpose of this thread is mainly to get some answers to a few questions of mine. I have yet to decide if I want to ask for a loan. Also due to the fact that my corporation hold a decent amount of other assets would I not be willing to hand over the CEO roles.



Best advice I could give would be to move the bpos to another corp for the duration of the loan if you are not comfortable having me CEO of that main corp. You could also provide other forums of collateral, just about anything else works.


Given that this sort of deal is mainly based around trust (especially towards the thrid party) is there any reason why you can't just hold on to the BPO's while the loan is active?



If you only need someone to hold it as collateral you are free to request a loan directly with me and i'll hold the collateral myself.

Edit : nevermind i noticed grendell offered to do the loan too , so go wiith him IF/WHEN you decide to go through with this.The interest rates usually are the same for all of us so first come first served .

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Rainbow Dash
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2014-02-12 16:55:29 UTC
The BlackPrince wrote:
Grendell wrote:
The BlackPrince wrote:
That's alright Grendell.

The purpose of this thread is mainly to get some answers to a few questions of mine. I have yet to decide if I want to ask for a loan. Also due to the fact that my corporation hold a decent amount of other assets would I not be willing to hand over the CEO roles.



Best advice I could give would be to move the bpos to another corp for the duration of the loan if you are not comfortable having me CEO of that main corp. You could also provide other forums of collateral, just about anything else works.


Given that this sort of deal is mainly based around trust (especially towards the thrid party) is there any reason why you can't just hold on to the BPO's while the loan is active?


The reason you lock down the BPOs in a corp (or in this case an alt corp) is that you can still use them while, in effect, Grendell is holding them. That way you don't lose access to the BPOs and can copy/produce from them, but if you default you have no way of actually stealing the BPOs.

Just holding them is possible, but then you can no longer access the BPOs. The corp thing is just flat out better and the way stuff like this is usually done.
flakeys
Doomheim
#27 - 2014-02-12 16:58:02 UTC
Rainbow Dash wrote:
The BlackPrince wrote:
Grendell wrote:
The BlackPrince wrote:
That's alright Grendell.

The purpose of this thread is mainly to get some answers to a few questions of mine. I have yet to decide if I want to ask for a loan. Also due to the fact that my corporation hold a decent amount of other assets would I not be willing to hand over the CEO roles.



Best advice I could give would be to move the bpos to another corp for the duration of the loan if you are not comfortable having me CEO of that main corp. You could also provide other forums of collateral, just about anything else works.


Given that this sort of deal is mainly based around trust (especially towards the thrid party) is there any reason why you can't just hold on to the BPO's while the loan is active?


The reason you lock down the BPOs in a corp (or in this case an alt corp) is that you can still use them while, in effect, Grendell is holding them. That way you don't lose access to the BPOs and can copy/produce from them, but if you default you have no way of actually stealing the BPOs.

Just holding them is possible, but then you can no longer access the BPOs. The corp thing is just flat out better and the way stuff like this is usually done.



Depends what you do with them.He stated he is only copying them and if you look at current freighter copies theyre not worth much.Now iif he was building then it might be worth doing it through a 3rd party corp.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
The BlackPrince
Inner Visions
#28 - 2014-02-12 16:58:50 UTC  |  Edited by: The BlackPrince
I understand the idea of the alt corporation, but in order for me to make use of my BPO's would I need access to the tower which means the alt corporation would have to be accepted by my alliance while having someone else's alt in it. That might not be possible but it's worth taking into account.

In any case am I happy to see how active this thread is. Thanks for all the info so far.

Currently building carriers and rorquals. Contact me for a cheap capital ship.
Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
#29 - 2014-02-12 17:20:18 UTC
It might be worth noting, that I only offer loans on amounts of 10b and over. If it turns out you need less than 10b, you would be better off choosing another lender.Smile

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♥ Securing Peace of mind ♥
The BlackPrince
Inner Visions
#30 - 2014-02-12 17:23:15 UTC  |  Edited by: The BlackPrince
Grendell wrote:
It might be worth noting, that I only offer loans on amounts of 10b and over. If it turns out you need less than 10b, you would be better off choosing another lender.Smile


I went with 10bil because I didn't wanted to go overboard with the first load, but I'll make sure to keep that in mind. :)

Edit: In terms of BPo's which can be used for collateral and not hurt my production line do I probably not have more than 17-20B worth.

Currently building carriers and rorquals. Contact me for a cheap capital ship.
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