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Stealth Bombers and Rapid Heavy Launchers
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stoicfaux
#1 - 2014-02-11 15:36:39 UTC
I'm thinking that it would be interesting to allow stealth bombers to use Rapid Heavy Launchers to further enhance their bursty DPS, glass cannon role.

If we expand the torpedo damage bonus to include RHLs, a two BCUII RHL Manticore is looking at:

Fury: 366 DPS sustained and 541 burst DPS, explosion radious of 181m, range ~45km
CN: 312 sustained, 460 burst, explosion radius of 105m, range ~60km
Precision: 271 sustained, 401 burst, explosion radius of 94m, range of ~30km

In comparison, the Manticore's torps are putting out 521 sustained DPS with CN ammo out to <60km with a 337m explosion radius.


This would increase the class of ships (i.e. cruisers) that a stealth bomber could be used against, and it would make them potentially more useful in low-sec as well (because bombs can only be used in null.)

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Dr Sraggles
The Covenant of Blood
#2 - 2014-02-12 00:50:53 UTC
Problem with SB is that in organized numbers they are devastating and still produce many, many kills in Null conflicts.

Doubt that we'll see much of an expansion of their roles when there are other missile issues but it would be fun for my SB pilot.

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LtauSTinpoWErs
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-02-12 01:09:26 UTC
Nope.
Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
#4 - 2014-02-12 01:10:22 UTC
Strongly Support this Idea!

The Rapid Heavy Launcher has already redeemed the outright butchering of my Heavy Missile skill @ V

Adding this to stealth bombers would make Heavy missile @ V desireable.

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Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#5 - 2014-02-12 02:58:40 UTC
bombers are limited to BS and above by design.

Even the ability of cruise missiles to hit "smaller" targets was removed from frigates long ago.
Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2014-02-12 03:33:30 UTC
stealth bombers in fleets can easily take down frigs and cruisers already.
these superb ships are not in need of a buff.

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Silent Scourge
#7 - 2014-02-12 04:01:32 UTC
Nope, Id rather SBs stay exactly where they are. Cuase they're good at what they do. Blowing up big ships, and scaring the hell out of BCs.

If you want somethign fast to hunt fig-cruisers get a high tracking cloaky T3.
Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#8 - 2014-02-12 06:03:47 UTC
buff torpedoes. nerf sb with explosion radius penalty.
Xeator
soldiers.fi
#9 - 2014-02-12 06:27:48 UTC
When I started the first thing that really stood out for me was the manticore.

I was so eager to fly this thing. When I eventually was able to fly it I had realized that bombs are for null only and damage with torps to anything smaller than a bs would be quite gimped.

What I was hoping for was a ship that I could solo hit and run with, but its far from that. Using a bomber in solo/small gang is no use.

With your suggested idea it could at least have a chance in solo/small gang since applying damage to smaller targets could be more viable than it is now. It would however still remain a glass cannon as it is intended.
Zakeus Djinn
Who Called In The Fleet
#10 - 2014-02-12 08:50:50 UTC
I really like this idea, but I also don't believe that stealth bombers should have this buff. That said, it would be a fun change.
Naomi Knight
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2014-02-12 09:13:38 UTC
lol no way
Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
#12 - 2014-02-12 09:33:02 UTC
No, simply because its T2 and that means specialised ships.

BUT i wouldnt mind a T1 frig or destroyer that can fit large missile systems (RHML, CM and Torps) without bombs and without Covert Ops Cloak. (A Role Bonus for decloak targeting delay would be ok)

See it like a Super Heavy Attacking Frig/Destroyer with paper tank and good dps.

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