Out of Pod Experience

And American football is played with a little bit of pigskin and a field. Yet it involves high stakes, psychological warfare, and a highly competitive attitude; by your standards, football players are psychopaths because they want to achieve a goal that runs counter to the desires of other players (the opposing team).

If you want, we can talk about online poker, which is a computer simulation running on one of the most advanced and sophisticated pieces of computing technology in the history of mankind, requiring hundreds of people to maintain it and complicated, distributed telecommunications infrastructure through which other advanced and sophisticated computing devices can input and receive outputs from said simulation in real-time by running "client" software programs on behalf of "users", of which many thousands can be connected to said simulation at any given time and with the results of those inputs and outputs persisting in the simulation and able to affect each and every other user according to a complex set of rules.

Does that make it close enough for EVE for you to get the connection?



According to the almighty Google, a game is "a form of play or sport, esp. a competitive one played according to rules and decided by skill, strength, or luck." Fits both EVE and poker.

So, are they the exact same? No, of course not, no more than chess and poker are, despite both involving pieces of wood or plastic. But are they all examples of games? Yes, that they are.

And since there's no equivalent of a royal flush in football, that means that either poker or football is not a game in your logic or something? Not sure where you where going with that last bit there to be honest.



You have to guard against your spaceship getting blown up because this is not a game where you are completely protected from other players and their playstyles. You are not segregated by desire to PvE, PvP, or roleplay onto separate servers like other MMOs. This is a deliberate choice by CCP, and part of the intended draw of the sandbox. It's a conflict driver, and EVE would be deadly dull without it.

It does swing both ways, of course. I have to learn at least SOME market tricks, or I end up paying a far higher price for my ships and equipment than I would otherwise. Should I complain and moan because I had to learn market PvP?

Similarly, I often have to resort to PvE to grind ISK to fund my PvP (amazing, PvPers lose ships all the time and emerge emotionally intact). Should I complain that this grinding goes against my playstyle and hurts my feelings that I'm not exempt from it?

I am here to have fun, and for me fun is about blowing up spaceships, preferably ones that are not my own because then I have to PvE to replace them. Curtailing my fun because you are not emotionally mature enough to part with your imaginary internet spaceship is not high on my list of priorities.

"Sorry I'm late boss, got stuck in an endless C4 chain."

AHAHAHAHA.. Oh wait, you're serious aren't you. Thats just sad. Almost as sad as all the risk averse carebears dogpiling on to this thread to white knight the OP's article.

It's a video game guys. It's not real. If you actually believe that I am "evil" for scamming you out of your Raven or blowing up your Retriever then I would suggest that you have lost touch with reality and may need to take a break from gaming. Maybe seek out a professional who can help you separate fantasy from reality. If you need some concrete examples of actual evil I'm sure you can find plenty of in that trash rag quoted in the OP.

The real problem is people like the OP and all the white knights in this thread, who seem to be unable to separate fact from fiction, video game from real life. All you have to do is look at minerbumping.com to see hundreds of examples of the eventual outcome of this kind of thinking. RL death threats, wishing harm upon others and their families. All over imaginary space bucks. I'll tell you, in almost 4 years playing this game, some of the most helpful and level headed people I have met have all been these so-called "psychopaths". I have yet to ever meet a ganker or scammer who wished death threats or RL harm on another player. However, I have met legions of so-called "pacifist", "just let me play my game", or "your playstyle means you're evil in RL" types who think nothing of wishing that my entire family die of cancer, or telling me that they would like to kill me in RL.

So, you tell me who is the sociopath?

Neither does ret@rd but I still see plenty of evidence (right here in the forum) that they still exist. Changing the name doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

And citation needed.

Mr Epeen

Scared to google it at work...

I think people who scam has a pretty high chance of being douchebags IRL too. The entire "it's just a game so treating people like **** in it is completely fine"-thing just stinks of ignorance, it's the same kind of people that generally acts like assholes on the internet because "lulz its just teh internets", not like there's other people out there that could take offense or be hurt by **** you say right?

This quote is just something psychopaths say...


























Psychopath!

The daily mail is a rag full of right wing propaganda with a mostly elderly readership who sneer upon anything they don't approve of or can't be arsed to understand.

I might be a bit of a b i t c h on the forums but that is only because a little bit of heat is expected around here. Likewise in eve once you leave high sec everyone is an outlaw. There is no point in trying to be nice in such places you will be eaten alive.

In real life however I am a kind and considerate person that wouldn't harm a fly, so just because some idiot thinks that some people can't separate reality from fantasy has wrote up yet another worthless piece of **** whilst trying to pass it off as science doesn't mean that it is true.

Like a lot of people here I don't have a dark nature away from eve and I am not more likely to dish out punishment than anyone else, quite the opposite in fact. I am an adult and know the difference between a game and real life.

In real life, I have several mental conditions and I'm label mentally ******** by the US Government. I have moments where little things provoke me into going into violent fits of rage and other moments where I have episodes where I bang my head against walls and other solid objects while constantly apologizing and calling myself stupid, think of that last one as something like the house elf from Harry Potter, only not as violent. I don't have many friends, since most people don't understand the problems I have, I look normal on the outside. I don't look the stereotype that people think someone with mental disorders should look like. So, when I have an episode in public it leads people into believing I'm insane. Only a few people actually look past my disorders and have become my friends. I also suffer from depression and a deep sense of self-loathing. So, all in all, offline I'm a complete mental wreck most of the time.


Online, however, I'm happy and friendly and sociable. It's easier for me to make friends online because I don't worry about what they would do if they find out. I seem normal online, sometimes my depression might come through but I honestly enjoy being online. When I'm playing online games, nothing triggers my episodes. So, in a weird way, playing MMOs like EVE and others actually help me feel like a normal person. Honestly, I wish the study was true. I wish I could be the way I am online when I'm in the real world. However, I don't think that will ever happen until my problems can be cured for good instead of my doctors cramming pills down my throat.

Why everyone is ragging on the Daily Mail when it's an American study they are reporting on is beyond me.

U.S. 'science' is publish or perish and corporate funded.

That's the real problem.

But keep shooting the messenger. It shows most of you didn't even click the link.

Mr Epeen