Player Features and Ideas Discussion

IMO the best way to fix the Nestor is;
Make the Astero a Destroyer, buff its HP a bit and give it a unique bonus of 20% drone damage and HP, leave the rest as is.
Make the Stratios a Battlecruiser, buff its HP a bit and give it back its 5th drone, leave the rest as is.
Have the Sisters of EVE offer a formal apology for the Nestor and decommission it, compensate the recall with a couple Stratios and Asteros.

Great, so now if you want to try and get SOE ships at cheaper than highsec LP prices you have 2 choices..
1; Run missions in the 1 system held by The Sanctuary (Goon space)
2; Run anoms (in Russ or Nulli space) in the hope of an escalation that may or may not drop you a nexus chip.

Nicely thought out.

Remove All Combat Bonuses
Remove All Exploration Bonuses
Reduce Drone Bay to 250m3


Add Cap Transfer Bonus (Amarr BS)
Add Logistic Drone Bonus (Gallente BS)
Add Fuel bay and allow for Jumping to Black Ops Cyno. (can not bridge but can jump itself.)

*Can Fit Cov Ops Cloak. (cloaking delay 15 seconds like others)

Poof you now have a Logistic ship that work well in WH's and with Black Ops. Really 2 roles that don't actually exist in game beyond gimmicky T3 fit with Logistics.

No what really needs to happen is to create a line of deadspace mods for drone drops. Starting with the Adaptive Invulnerability Field.

Then lower the drop rate for other regions to compensate.

And deadspace large remote armor repairers. They would go nice with the Nestor.

Not sure about the relevance of dead space mods but hunting dead space mods does not require going to only 1 system, known to be inhabited by one of the largest NBSI coalitions in nulsec.

Yes buff drone sites with a ship that, for the most part, nobody wants and the Astero and Stration are already accessible enough from the SOE LP stores. Rather than actually make faction drone mods to buff drone sites with.

Not whining, merely stating observations. Frankly I gave up on commenting on most of CCP Rise's threads.

I don't see why a player has to spell things out to the developer before they can admit there is a problem with the nestor... Didn't Rise know the ship had bad cap regeneration and scan res when they made the ship?!

Let's cut them a little slack here, It must be really hard to try to balance any new ship when there are so many divergent opinions, and no matter what path is trodden, people will call out that , logistic/lasers/drones/battleships etc etc are over/underpowered according to our play styles and opinions... And do.

It is understandable that any new ship can become "vanilla" or underwhelming as a counter to this pressure, particularly after some of the stress they must have encountered after the previous ships.

There have been some excellent comments in this thread, regarding what it would take to improve the logistics role of this ship, and I was very pleased to see CCP rise welcomed one particularly well thought out reply, and was looking to incorporate some of these points.

I would love to see things like the mini ship hanger and other points of interest visible in the original artwork incorporated,

but of greater importance,I would also like to see the ability to move around systems while retaining cloak, Balanced by an inability to utilise weapons or launch drones or to be locked for 20 seconds after de-cloaking.
Sort of a shortened, enforced, mini gate cloak effect. Visible but not yet fully returned to real space, with all the consequences for both sides.
(Sisters engineers make a Breakthrough in "Ring Displacement" cloaking technology, allowing cloaked warping, But due to the size of the vessel, It has difficulties returning to real space.)

This would solve a serious issue with the Nestor users have, with utilising the ship in wormholes, a role it is otherwise, ideally suited for, and currently a near fatal flaw preventing it's adoption.

It is important to note that A surprise cloak ambush would then NOT be possible. Eliminating A major concern some have with a cloaky battleship.

This would then also allow fast lock speeds to be implemented , which is invaluable for Logistics, without unbalancing things.

This ship has the ability to be exceptionally useful, and although it is understandable to "play it safe" with design, if we can move away from that, It could be a real asset to the game.