Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I train missile skills early on in eve until I realized every sane toon owner was gun/drone training. It really would be nice if at least one of the battleships, faction or not made it worth while training missiles skills again.


My idea is a synchronized fire skill (needs to be trained as do all skills) and a new module... something that allows a fleet commander to fire all the fleets missiles at a single target (ships have to be fitted with the module) Make the module a high cap use item, something that no player will leave running for longer than a minute but offering a very high alpha hit.

Skill is simple. The higher your level the quicker the FC can synchronize fire. The means more ships fire in a single volley and hit at the same time. The FC will have to make the choice of waiting longer to get more ship's missiles into the volley or firing say when he has 50%, 60% etc.

So FC's will want fleet pilots to have higher "missile synchronized fire skill". To help prevent afk use the skill should be linked to a module. The module should have a high capacitor usage reduced in increments with each level of "Missile synchronized fire skill"
But even at level 5 no ship should be able to keep one running for long than 1 minutes.

A skill that gives a tremendous Alpha hit but at the price of requiring pilots in a fleet to work together.

Missiles fired using the synchronization module will travel to target at the speed and range of the lowest skilled missile boat.

If Raven A's toon has level 3 missile skills and is using meta launcher and T1 missiles and has a range of 90km.
and Raven B's toon has level 5 missile skills and is using T2 launcher and T2 missiles and has a range of 120km.
Then the synchronized hit range of the entire fleet will be 50km.

Missiles will still hit further out but the synchronized massive alpha effect will be lost to any missiles with extended range beyond the 90km.

Apart from creating the skill and the modules ccp have to make sure that the synchronized bang four buck is worth the time invested.

The synchronized impact multiplier should be high enough to alpha a well fit dread off the field in say two volleys. The downside would be time, the better toons in the fleet the faster it can get off the second volley. (I am using this as an example not suggesting it should be that powerful but it must be worth the time to invest.) A reason to train t2 cruise missiles.
Okay idea is out there feel free to rip it to shreds

As far as i'm aware, such module exists. its called voice comms.

I'm sorry, but think about it - CCP limits drone assist because of the ability of one man to shoot all the fleet's guns (and other reasons). Now, you say that missiles need a feature for an effect, that may very well be achieved without it.

And then, cruise missiles are pretty brutal, especially on explosion radius bonused hulls (Caldari Navy Raven being one) ot with support from a target painter (or both). And so are torpedoes, if you get some assist in applying the damage (painter, web).

The focus of the current meta may not be that proportionate to the actual worth of a weapon system (Although medium sized missiles do fall out of proportion compared to their small and large counterparts in therms of damage application).

this is a really stupid idea. Why don't you just do what maelstrom fleets do and have a count-down?

Firstly voice coms do not make the perfect alpha volley, lag plays a big part in tidi battles and F1 smashing hence drone assist being so popular.


I may be off on a lot facts having not used a cruise missile fitted ship in years. They have been relegated to PVE in the most part.

I am looking to give a player a reason to actually train missile skills other than those needed for the crow and tengu.

The idea is in no way perfect or without some major flaws

so why would ccp make "botting" in pve even easier?

I have 2 tengu capable chars for example. Replace tengu with any missile spamming boat to taste ofc. Tengu chosen for an easy kind of cheap effective permarun tank. Set one to autoorbit the other, and that other gets missile control as well. Currently I would have to alt tab/switch windows to control what that 2nd tengu fires at. With this....well I don't even have to do that anymore.


Its not missile sync firing that kills missiles in pvp op, turret users don't even ahve this. Its the lack of instant hit. FC able to control several ravens fire at 100+ km's would still have the issue that after they fire the several other turret boats have blown up primary and possibly secondary and those missiles are going for targets already dead.

That and firewall if used right degrades missile strikes. IIRC ccp has not touched effective HP of missiles. So fc calling all missiles jsut won't work well. hell it may work less efffective than before. With un-sync;d fire some may get through smarties between cycles if timers are out of sync. This....all are hititng the wall at the same time. I got 5 on them hitting wall in a cycle over sneaking through 100% between cycles, its just too tempting an event for Murphy and his law to turn down showing up to lol.

This doesn't really make much sense, unlike turrets and sentry drones, missiles have a flight time and deal delayed damage. Assuming everyone fired at the same time, unless everyone was exactly the same distance from the target ship (say orbiting at 50km) and has Missile Projection V, you're not going to get even a vague resemblance to an alpha strike. Anything less and you're going to have some missiles reaching the target before others and get staggered DPS as a result.

The knock-on effect here is that, on top of having 80 ships yellowbox you giving a hint that you're going to be alpha'd, because missiles have a delayed flight time and staggered DPS, the second the missile volley is launched, reps can be applied, and if the targeted ship is armor then the reps can just be timed so that they finish cycling mid volley.

when a massive amount of damage comes in before more than 1 cycle of reps can be applied (unless you messed up bad the timing of missile hits aren't going to be massively spread apart) I consider that alpha. Sadly, this mechanic would just trade drone assisting with missile assist. Which, in massive numbers (like quite a few things in eve) is bad.

Okay, I accept my original idea was badly thought-out.

You know what ccp does with bad ideas

List of relevant missile ships:

Sacrilege, Cerberus, Caracal, Raven, Typhoon, Hawk, Talwar, Widow, Drake, Nighthawk, Damnation, Crow, Malediction, Vengeance, Tengu, and Legion. *list not exclusive

Nothing wrong with missiles in general, although certain ones need some work. Heavies and Citadel Cruise/Torps specifically need a buff.

All I can say is lrn 2 Caldari.