Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Its important to note that this was able to happen because the ESS was not located at a fully spawned anomaly. If it had been, the locals would not have had to form up in response to the stealth bomber trying to steal from the ESS since the rats would just kill it. The only problem with this I see is from the perspective of the locals not having to defend their space. Sure you can still clear the anom but for the average solo person roaming in nullsec hoping to maybe force the locals to respond, this really prevents a lot of content from being created. Then again if I lost nearly 20 carriers trying to defend an ESS I would e trying to find a way to reap its benefits without really having to defend it myself as well.

exactly! putting it inside an anom just means that locals can just laugh at attempts to steal from the ESS insted of actually defending it.

(new news) how is being able to anchor an ESS at 0km on the sun; so when you warp to it you get slingshot away at tens of thousands of kilometers a second; NOT in any way broken?

they are completely broken and need fixing correctly.

Edit. yes players are anchoring them at Suns now just for this effect.

Thinking about this logically, rats should attack the ESS and destroy it.

Why would they leave it there? The whole point on the thing is to keep track of their own deaths.

If you want to talk logically then rats would also destroy your pod after they destroyed your ship. They also would destroy an MTU that was deployed. But you really cannot apply logic to everything in this game can you?

The issue people have is that some think it should be defended by the people who live there. Sticking it in a fully spawned anom means you don't have to defend it against the one or two guys roaming your space. This results in no real content generation as they cant attempt to steal from your ESS without dying to the rats, and you have no reason to respond to very small gangs or people roaming solo. While it is interesting that this can be pulled off, it strikes me as odd that you would rather have npcs prevent potential content generation to such an extent.

Furthermore, on the 'get a larger fleet or just don't bother' response, a larger fleet may not even get a fight in the system as you could just have a couple people doing pve there. These people likely wouldn't fight the larger incoming fleet and forming up a response to it may take far too long, by the time you have a response fleet they may have already taken the loot and left. I get that very few people actually want to defend these structures from one or two guys, but when they do, fights like the one posted above happen which is the kind of content that keeps a lot of people playing and gives them a reason to roam and such.

CCP knew exactly what they were doing when they put the limitations in place for the ESS. Do you think they forgot that anomalies existed in null sec when they created the ESS?

I am totally ok with just taking the ESS out of the game. But to put another nerf on top of everything else CCP has done to null sec would be completely wrong.

This made me log in to like it!
Perfect solution XD And they give the tags to the strongest rat :P

your mistaken if you actually read the OP it clearly makes it unable to be stolen from whilst the "defense" is "automated" by the Rats because actual tanked ships popped the triggers so there is stupid amounts of rats to tank while waiting for the ESS to **** out the tags.. which are then targeted and sucked up by the closest Mobile tractor of which will have been placed by the people who put the ESS down in the first place.

and im not a pirate and i have friends. stealing from an ess with the a fore mentioned criteria in place is an Impossibility unless you bring sizeable gang with a dedicated tank ship which as we all know would only work as bait and wouldnt really be used in nullsec unless it was a bait carrier

the MTU also scoops the tags into its self so if the player entered with a pod to start the timer the tags would be scooped by the closest MTU which would normally be the defenders MTU.