EVE General Discussion

This proves that there are other ways to play the game. You don't have to stay in hi-sec or join the most powerful alliance. Honestly, I'm not sure what the fuss is all about, we are just a group of blues living in Stain and we want others to benefit from it.

I like you.

I respect and appreciate the fact that you guys have such an ambitious project, and are actually trying to do it. Last year I was running a small PvP corp in Curse, and we would occasionally roam through Stain. It seemed like a pretty lonely region with real potential for people to move in and create fun content for each other. I even toyed with the idea of moving my corp over there, but decided that the logistics weren't worth the trouble.

I have a few suggestions for you, though. First, stop the petty arguments with your detractors in this thread. It's just making you seem like a couple of assholes. Nobody wants to move all the way out to Stain to hang out with assholes. Second, you need to sell this thing. You need to build a brand, create propaganda, spam it all over the place. You need to make it sound fun. Third, you need to make sure that it lives up to its hype. If it sounds like a lot of fun, people will come. If it is a lot of fun, people will stay. The more people that stay, the more fun it seems to new people who might want to come.

You also need to be realistic. Be safe while flying? Are you guys serious? Sounds like you plan on docking everybody up and carefully evaluating every potential threat. Remember what I just said about fun? People don't play video games to be cautious, they play them to kick ass. Pick one - NRDS or NBSI. Hint - the correct answer is NBSI.

You are never going to make Stain into highsec, and your people aren't likely to make better isk there than they could elsewhere. What you might be able to do, with the right leadership, is build a fun community and a regional market hub.

Plus one for the regional market Hub. It's a bloody nightmare getting certain items down here. Skillbooks and implants in particular.

hint hint...

Yeah Stain is pretty dead, but as you said the issue is logistics, one way is through WH's and of course with the right logistic background, as we said we are working on that, plans made and yeah we will be there.

I like your posts and I understand that your giving helpful advice, thanks, I hope what I say now is not taken the wrong way, I prefer to be direct with people and like your directness.

The problem is that those detractors will not shut up, if I ignore them they will keep posting, in terms of propaganda if you leave them to hold the field they will paint their own story, so I have enaged where I need to and also attacked in their weak spots, I will continue to do it even though for some people I am an *******, to be blunt I will always be an ******* to them.

This gets onto your next point, I like PvP, but to me its not just shooting people and watching things go boom, we will do that when it suits us and will stay docked up if it does not, I make no apologies for this and I know that for many people I am half way to being a miner in their view, however, I want to have fun, and part of that is killing people and the other is to get them to move my tune so I can get that fun kill, especially important in a game that rewards blobs. Because of the blob mentality and the way people hot drop rifters, people have become cautioous due to experrience, don't blame people like me, but those lazy people who have destroyed small gang PvP in the game.

In my view the approach we have is NBSI with a slight modification for people that are not seen as a threat, but thats me.

I am in total agreement with your last paragraph, Aaron was getting carried away with his dream, I am however quite realistic in what I want to achieve and what you say here is what I am after, "build a fun community and a regional market hub."

Thank you for your post and I wish you well

A number of people might have seen this little exchange and wondered about it, first off there was a decent message in there wrapped up in acute sarcasm, I actually plus'ed it myself even though I knew it was an Aaron attack post, because it talked about doing more in the game even though it was not really his intent.

Erick Odin is continuously hassling Aaron, he went through a period of private convoing him every day, to initially make nice comments then to slip in the odd attack, a bit of sarcasm, all designed to wind up Aaron, Aaron of course was initially OK to talk with him, but it soon got a bit tiring, and should I mention the desperate appeal for Aaron to come back to UF-KKH to revitalize Local-Spike and their bored allies, who spend their time doing gates camps on small ships that never fight back, which he refers to here.

After a while of this, Aaron got fed up with all these convo's full of little point scoring, digs and jibes, by a person that seems to be focused on a weird type of personal war on Aaron. So Aaron decided on a simple but effective reply to Erick Odin, LOL.

In every convo that came after that point in time, he would reply with LOL, Erick Odin found his finely crafted insults his little jibes, his fun at trying to score small petty points of past events answered with a simple LOL Can you imagine the grinding of teeth that this simple LOL must have created in reply to those finely worded insults, the number of convo's reduced in number and any attempt to speak to Aaron again were met with a simple LOL

Aaron mentioned this to me and I laughed, it was a simple way of dealing with it and worked, and I congratulated Aaron on the perfect response, he had given him the time initially and talked to him normally, but at the end of the day, all Erick Odin wanted to do was be a pain. I said to Aaron that he will post on the forum and if he does, reply with LOL. And Aaron did.

The result is utterly hilarious, mere minutes after that devastating public LOL a war dec was received by Aaron, but the most amusing thing that Aaron and his corp only rarely goes to hisec, it is utterly ineffective, and we know that this person will never come to our location in Stain. And the icing on the cake, I received an evemail today titled LOL from Erick Odin, threatening me too and linking to 4 JF kills on a known carebear alliance in 2011, and I replied with LOL!

Sometimes in Eve a simple word such as LOL can be totally devastating!

Why does no one need to hear that story, this is Eve, this is the game for some people, and that is what I am exposing here.

If you think Eve is just blowing up people and good fights in local all round, jolly good old bean and all that, you need to get your own head out of your ass!

When you do something people have invested a lot of emotional energy into claiming can't be done, you have to expect a reaction.

We could always use more Industry, at the moment we not sure if we should put up POS's for moon mining. I will be very honest and tell you that I would only risk a POS I could easily afford to lose. I would think that you could easily make back most of the money you paid for the POS if you did have one destroyed.

Your desire for a POS does step up the challenge of living here because we will have structures in space that can be attacked. There would have to be a group of us prepared to defend it and that costs money if losses are high. I would like to work with you on making this possible for the long term.

Planetary is very good here.

"It is better to try and fail, then to have never tried at all."
~PotatoOverdose