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'In Real LIfe I am KInd. In EVE I am a Psychopath'

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Tollen Gallen
Glory of Reprisal Enterprise
#61 - 2014-02-10 18:43:04 UTC
I like Jelly.

Zimmy Zeta - I f*cking love martinis. the original ones, with gin, not that vodka martini crap. Your old Friends can use me for 7 days, free!!!
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#62 - 2014-02-10 18:48:24 UTC
Relevant.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
Muestereate
Minions LLC
#63 - 2014-02-10 18:51:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Muestereate
The random chaos, violence reward and punishment of this game and many others are prerequisites to brainwashing. Physical emotional and physical stress are used to weaken the mind. The belief that it is normal is the next goal. Peer reinforcement is both evidence of and a tool of the operant and become increasingly harder to mentally escape. That means many of the people in this thread are literally tools. no troll intended. We are of course also employed as violent and chaotic elements,So also could the constant changing of rules and "balancing". Once these are met influence becomes a soft sell with the victims embracing their captors as benefactors. All hail beneficent and wonderful CCP. Continued development of multiple personalities allows a lot of hidden values and motivations. WE of course MUST have alts, even if its only on one account.

The most obvious goals of this company are to sell subscriptions, and plex but could it be more nefarious. I originally thought of this as a possible economic experiment on free market capitalism but with the fall of Icelands economic system, coud the social data be of value to state controlled socialist, communist government cultures?

With a name like Crowd Control Productions and supercomputer modeling and data crunching capabilities one has to ask... What is the nature of their production?

Many will of course guffaw this post, it is the nature of your programming. But the question must stand, who are they grooming and for what? Sure as hell isn't anything of social or moral value.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#64 - 2014-02-10 18:52:42 UTC
Muestereate wrote:
The random chaos, violence reward and punishment of this game and many others are prerequisites to brainwashing. Physical emotional and physical stress are used to weaken the mind. The belief that it is normal is the next goal. Peer reinforcement is both evidence of and a tool of the operant and become increasingly harder to mentally escape. That means many of the people in this thread are literally tools. no troll intended. We are of course also employed as violent and chaotic elements,So also could the constant changing of rules and "balancing". Once these are met influence becomes a soft sell with the victims embracing their captors as benefactors. All hail beneficent and wonderful CCP. Continued development of multiple personalities allows a lot of hidden values and motivations. WE of course MUST have alts, even if its only on one account.

The most obvious goals of this company are to sell subscriptions, and plex but could it be more nefarious. I originally thought of this as a possible economic experiment on free market capitalism but with the fall of Icelands economic system, coud the social data be of value to controlled socialist, communist governments?

With a name like Crowd Control Productions and supercomputer modeling and data crunching capabilities one has to ask... What is the nature of their production?

Many will of course guffaw this post, it is the nature of your programming. But the question must stand, who are they grooming and for what? Sure as hell isn't anything of social or moral value.


Christ, just when you thought nothing could make Dinsdale look sane....this.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#65 - 2014-02-10 18:53:13 UTC
Did nto read all the replies,

I will say this, in my own experience, I did one time yell at my wife (then gf) when she was asking me to do something in the middle of my first pod death. This was nearly 10 years ago, and granted the first death is always a bit of a GRRRRRRRR moment. A few min after I calmed down though. These studies are stupid, because what they do it have someone do something then go 'ok now do this thing that's not really going to hurt someone' like a few min after you were evil. a lot of people, still hyped up on whatever, would just go ok. Where as if they had a few mind to decompress they would not. But to the same thing, no control group.. I am sure if you told people 'hey we want you to pur either hot sause or chocolate on this thing, and someone you don't know will eat it' a lot of people will pour the hot sause case 1) it won't kill or hurt anyone, and b) it will be funny as hell to see someone go for milk (I can't handle spice at all, but i'll eat a jalapeno to get a laugh out of someone [yes its burns but I admit my reaction is funny as hell])

All these studies are dumb. Are there outliars and people who really will do stuff in video games and movies irl? Yes. but that is usually credited to bad parenting and other things. I mean if your parents never said 'this is fake and will hurt someone..' I mean hell look at all the back yard wresting groups... sheesh.

and I rambled again damn I am getting old

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Muestereate
Minions LLC
#66 - 2014-02-10 18:54:07 UTC
It is the nature of brainwashing to instill the idea that thoughts like this are insane. You learned everything you need to know to be brainwashed by the age of 10
CCP Guard
C C P
C C P Alliance
#67 - 2014-02-10 19:01:30 UTC
Since taking on the role of Guard I've become short in real life also Straight

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Vyl Vit
#68 - 2014-02-10 19:02:44 UTC
Not this again. Didn't we already discuss this to death....I mean, we already shot everyone who disagreed with us?

The "I can be evil in pixel life, and good in real life," people would have you believe they're not really there pounding on their keyboards. By extension, their keyboards must not really be there. Others (thanks King Veldspar) want you to believe they're using this sandbox to confine their evil tendencies so we don't have to worry about them emerging in real life.

Behind all of this is the irrefutable fact that dishonesty is at the root, and who's going to believe a dishonest person? (Well, if we didn't have those kind of people, Goons would be a figment of their own imaginations.) The first thing one must do to be dishonest is lie to oneself. Once that is accomplished, the rest is an easy slide.

What's the lie? One tells oneself, "It's okay to lie." Once that step is taken, all that's left is "what happens if I get caught?" What's amusing is why folks who can resort to all manner of foul behavior in-game feel the need to be seen as having a level of control that holds them innocent of such things in real life...as though (again) they're not really sitting at their keyboards. The other interesting feature is playing down the significance of what's been done. "It's only pixels."

If that were the case, where does this "milking tears" part come in...I mean, if none of this is really real? Fortunately, for civilization and humanity, people don't get to decide what's good and what's evil. The nature of exisence has already worked that out. This leaves just the retribution. If, as in the case of EVE, there is none, that doesn't mean evil ceases to exist. It only means the authorities involved have sided with evil, which is evil, as well.

Ultimately, it's not a matter of you have done it. It's a matter of if you can do it. Being capable of evil is evil as well.

A bit like being pregnant; you can't be sorta pregnant.

Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#69 - 2014-02-10 19:02:52 UTC
Var D'ovoli wrote:
It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again

TwistedTwistedTwistedTwisted


Precious. Are you up there, you little ****.
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#70 - 2014-02-10 19:04:29 UTC
I don't think people are good or evil. Smart or stupid.

I think we're all just people and sometimes we do good things. Sometimes we do evil things.

Sometimes we do smart things. Sometimes we do stupid things.

So to all of you people, I love you all. Even when you do good things. Even more when you do evil things as that is when you most need love. When you're smart, yep I still love you. When you're stupid....

Well no, I hate stupid people.

"Grr Kimmi  Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide

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Beta Maoye
#71 - 2014-02-10 19:04:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Beta Maoye
Everyone has good and bad in him. People tend to reveal their true nature when there is no consequence for their behaviours. I appreciate people who fight in battlefield for territories and glories, but frown upon people who gank mining ship and cargo ship that has no arms.
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#72 - 2014-02-10 19:10:36 UTC
AnotherUseless Alt wrote:
People act out in game the way they'd like to, if the real world had no rules.



Yes, yes.

Only the rules prevent me from gunning down every random stranger who enters my neighborhood for laughs.
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#73 - 2014-02-10 19:12:24 UTC
Vyl Vit wrote:
Being capable of evil is evil as well.


Unlike evil, which seems to fall under some sort of self control, apparently being capable of shitting out a wall of meaningless text means that you actually will do it.
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#74 - 2014-02-10 19:14:26 UTC
Kimmi Chan wrote:

So to all of you people, I love you all.


I love you too, Kimmi Chan. And I love the taste of purple.
Muestereate
Minions LLC
#75 - 2014-02-10 19:17:47 UTC
One constant symptom of psychopaths is there persistent struggle to prove they are not. Merely struggling against it proves its existence.
Vyl Vit
#76 - 2014-02-10 19:18:27 UTC
Domanique Altares wrote:
Vyl Vit wrote:
Being capable of evil is evil as well.


Unlike evil, which seems to fall under some sort of self control, apparently being capable of shitting out a wall of meaningless text means that you actually will do it.

How literate of you! I know you were able to follow each thought! Really.

Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.
Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
#77 - 2014-02-10 19:33:05 UTC
Vyl Vit wrote:
Being capable of evil is evil as well.


If that were true, basically all of humanity would be evil.

We're all capable of being evil. It's the fear of repercussions that holds most of us back.

Now, take these away and you'll end up with people behaving in a way they usually never would, like in, say, Eve Online.

Does that make it morally reprehensible? I think yes.

Does it make it evil? I think not. 'Human' is what comes to mind.

Our pixel opponents are outside of our monkeysphere; we just don't care about them. Being evil would imply enjoying kicking them when they're down - and there are a few players in thís game who do just that.
Clementina
University of Caille
#78 - 2014-02-10 19:44:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Clementina
The study is falsehood with respect to Eve Online. Essentially; this game is actually an S&M roleplay, in electronic form, with slightly less sex. You are supposed to pwn and get pwned.

The only psychopathic act is not participating in the grief. This makes you at best a voyeur, watching, staring at other people getting it on and having fun vicariously through them. At worst you are a tease, sitting in the belt in your pretty mining barge, wearing your short short tank but not letting anyone touch.
Galen Darksmith
Sky Fighters
Rote Kapelle
#79 - 2014-02-10 19:45:46 UTC
AnotherUseless Alt wrote:
People act out in game the way they'd like to, if the real world had no rules.



That's like saying puppies would kill each other given half a chance. I mean, just look at them play fight. They have their teeth on each others throat and everything!

"EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for." -CCP Wrangler
Your Dad Naked
Doomheim
#80 - 2014-02-10 19:48:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Your Dad Naked
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