EVE General Discussion

And thank god it is.

Pretty much no mining ship has the ability to defend itself, except against high sec rats. The Procurer and Skiff can survive long enough for Concord to defend you. The Venture is the best ship for low sec because of the warp core stabilizer bonus. For the most part mining isn't better in low sec.

But if you already think mining is kind of boring, you're probably better off moving towards PvE missions. You'll be working on skills that lead to PvP and it has a lot more isk earning potential.

The advantage of mining is you can do it while you do something else, like read about Eve in another window, computer work, studying or Netflix. Just don't go away from the keyboard and eat lunch -- or you might get a visit from the people trying to sell you a permit.

He will have much more fun and more likely stay subscribed if he is encouraged to avoid this silly mining thing.

If you really must mine a tanked Procurer is the least likely to get ganked in high sec as it is not really worth ganking and returns almost nothing in modules and not that much in ore either. PPL will still gank them out of boredom though.

Best suggestion for mining though is don't. It's only really viable for people whose real life commitments like kids and work force them to play semi-afk.

As far as mining permits go people stupid enough to buy them deserve to be slapped around for idiocy. It's about time people started ganking any miners WITH permits to discourage the practice.

why?

Hulk? Oh lord.

When flying a hulk, name it "Please Gank Me". It will make sorting out the dscan a little easier. Do miners really give out this sort of advise? If you must mine in a T2 hull and don't want to use a Skiff, the Mackinaw is the only reasonable choice. It at least has a decent tank assuming you actually fit tank modules. Do a good job tanking it and we would need 4 T2 catalyst pilots to kill it. And bonus, it has a larger ore hold than the Hulk.

Although I support jumping in T1 frigs and doing some NFG pvp I would still consider how well you can fly the frig. If you have been training for mining you may need to tweek your skill points and training to fly a combat frig a little better to allow yourself a chance.

Or join a corp that teaches this like red vs blue or brave newbies or similar. Try to do it ALL on your own may end in frustration.

Hello Iseballa Orti,

I too starting EVE out mining and I still do it depending on my mood.

I'm going to review with you a game plan if mining is your calling.

Barge is the next step. Continue to mine and save isk. Train the related skills while you wait. Takes a bit of overhead to get in to mining, as you've noticed the cost of barges aren't cheap for someone starting out.

Once you get in to barge I recommend you pause your mining training and flip to the following
-Ice harvesting
-Gas Mining

Both are easy/quick to cap the skills in, both of these skills can net you a great deal more profit at times.

Now That you can fly a barge, mine ice, harvest gas. Your in a postion now to have options.

This part is critical, the next step is you want to find a nullsec corp. Some corps even provide the ship and equipment for you to use! There are plenty of mining corps around in null that would love to have a miner in training join their ranks. Depending on the situation if POS fuel demand is high and they are deep in null, you can make 40-60M an hour mining ice there. This solo of course.

But that's really not where you want to be, you want to be in a mining OP with max bonus, and protection. There is money to be made in the field but its about taking risks and finding the correct area to target the market.

Trit can now be mined in null sec, the value of trit in the area I live is higher then anything else. Most miner go for trit yielding ore because the payout is really high in the area because of the demand.

This are things you want to discuss when locating a corp in nullsec on what the market looks like and what you can expect to maker per hour. Every area will be different!


When I started mining, Batam was the only mining frigate, next level from there was the Osprey, then barge. I'm not sure if the osprey could out mine a Venture but might be worth researching.

While your at it research gas harvesting in null, there was a thread I read today on the first page today that reviewed some numbers. For the cost of the ship paired with the risk you take, I see it as a really great opportunity for you for nice isk and a risk to keep things more alive and interesting. You might find you enjoy the game much more living closer to the edge.

Ever notice how boring bored people are? Swap the mining drones for a pair of scout drones. Might want to use a med slot for a shield extender. Stay in the higher high sec systems.

Did anyone notice how the thrilling players suggest you just go out and "buy" ships...as though they make themselves...no ore required...no alloys...just shop. Mining is so worthless to the game....really.

Ask the easily bored. (Don't worry guys. You won't be using the fat crayons much longer.)

I suggest you do what you like.

There are hundreds of things you can do to occupy your time. If you want to mine, go for it. It's not great income, but it can be done semi AFK to pay for a second acct that you use for more fun adventures once you have the skills for a barge.

You only really need enough isk for what you need. A lot of people make isk for the sake of making isk. Which, again, is fine if that's what you want to do. But for most things, a big pile of money in your wallet that you are not using equals a big pile of wasted time in game. There is just so much else you can be doing with that time.

Mr Epeen