Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Must be forum CTA night. Grinding INK towers is really that boring?

Ahh gotcha. Have at it then.

Hey you know CCP If you want to actually fix the drone "problem".

Get rid of Drone assist entirely.
Get rid of Drone bays in any combat ship* without a drone bonus (Damage/Tracking/Repair/Durability)


*excluding things like Recon/ORE/Industrial/Transport.

Because the proposed change here doesn't actually address either of the "problems" you listed. It doesn't solve anything.


You already issue special global circumstances for incursions, you can easily* add a metric that says Incursion events can assign drones.

*I don't know your code so it might not actually be easy.

I doubt it. Mr. Martini encouraged all his plebs to come to this exact thread and troll it into the ground. Which is rather pathetic if you ask me.

Personally I think CCP has to go all in on this drone thing. Or make no changes at all. This halfway thing that Rise has posted on page one doesn't fix any of the problems. You turn 1 assist into 5 assists. So 5 people play out of 250 instead of just 1. You also don't get rid of the excess objects loading the server.

Halfass measures never solve anything. Go for broke. Or GTFO.

i don't think you "get" victory lap posting

Did he? I must have missed that broadcast. I was just on the toilet and needed to post.

Much of what's going on in this thread can hardly be called 'discussion', a fact which largely applies regardless of any given poster's affiliations. I'm neither interrupting nor disrupting very much here.



Sentries still have far and away the best damage application and often times the best raw dps in any given range band of any battleship sized weapon in the game, especially when deployed by tracking bonused ships.

In other words, [citation needed]

Well maybe send a message to Mr. Martini and let him know sending the CFC to troll a potential mechanic thread is pretty lame, and next time he should wait until the final decision has been made so peoples comments don't get buried under a stream of one liners from GoonPlatoon.

I don't disagree that Sentries are strong going down in size projection and in like projection. They however are terrible against targets going up the scale. I am sure I don't need to tell a member of the CFC how well Domis fare against Capital ships for example. While other weapon systems downsized projections aren't as good, their like size are comparable and their upsize projection is actually higher than sentries in most cases. (An 1400 Arty weapon is going to have better projection against a Carrier than a Sentry.)

That is a check and balance. My fear is that when you remove the conditional up down projection of the sentry, and then slap on top of that further limitation into application of Alpha suddenly you lose a bunch of ships. Heck even Mr/. Martini said Domis can go to the Garbage can now.

That is not progressive for the game whatsoever. We saw what the change to the Drake did, followed by the HML change that killed it pretty much outright, and the Tengu right behind it. Do we need to be killing ships? Or actually fixing issues?

Or should we just troll, and circle jerk, and high five each other because CCP Rise said he is thinking about making a change to a weapon system we don't like.

As a CSM don't you think you should put your Bumblebee Flag down in discussions like this?

On the topic of "killing ships," let me tell you my personal experience with every MMO that I have played.

Devs announce that scissors is being buffed and rock is being nerfed. Across the forums people are outraged. Rock is fine, nerf paper! Do not nerf Rock, that is all I have ever loved playing and I will unsubscribe if you do this! And so on.

Meanwhile in every goon guild I have joined, we adapt. Rock is old news and Scissors is the new black? Everyone get ready to run Scissors into the ground, let's exploit it for maximum fun until it, too, is inevitably nerfed.

MMOs have nerf cycles. Whine on the forums if you want; or, deal with it and fine a way to exploit the new thing. :]

But what if the proposed change doesn't actually solve any of the issues. Isn't that a problem? If ultimately this is to reduce server stress. Why not actually remove the issue, excessive drones, instead of removing the ships using them.

Get rid of drone bays on all nonbonused ships and keep drone assist. Its not drone assist killing the server. Its the drones.


if its about having people actually push buttons, why not start axing all passive game play? Including POSes and PI, and AFK mining.

Application, the thing I was actually talking about, is how well that paper DPS number is actually applied. Tracking, sig radius, all that stuff. Any battleship sized weapon is going to apply its damage equally well to carriers, since they have a huge sig and are very easy to track.

Now I dunno what you mean by projection, but when I think of projection I think of how far you can shoot, and obviously "the size of the target" has nothing to do with that.

So maybe you can explain to me what the **** you mean?