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Trying to Develop Military Tactics to Raise Income.

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Taoist Dragon
School of Applied Knowledge
#21 - 2014-02-09 00:29:15 UTC
Oiras Isimazu wrote:
Yes, I am trying to make ISK and calculate how much I can make.
I also calculate how much I do make.
And I compare those figures with my costs and potential income.


Ah you're one of 'those' people.

Go run missions or do exploration rather than ratting if you want to make isk. Missions are very easy to do all the calculations you want.

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.

Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#22 - 2014-02-09 00:43:32 UTC
Yes I will, I found some agent in low sec that will give me security missions.

I also read that after 10 or so mission that I get to do some mission series which pays more.


I can also try to get in FW solo, but that is risky.
Taoist Dragon
School of Applied Knowledge
#23 - 2014-02-09 00:51:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Taoist Dragon
Oiras Isimazu wrote:
Yes I will, I found some agent in low sec that will give me security missions.

I also read that after 10 or so mission that I get to do some mission series which pays more.


I can also try to get in FW solo, but that is risky.


Risky? for isk mkaing? it is probably one of the easiest ways to make isk in game. But won't tell you how.

and I think the count is something like 16 missions to get a 'storyline' or something.

Probably best to ask in the missions area of the forums for isk making acivities as tis forum is for those wanting to actually engage in combat with others usually.

----> Missions and complexes forum

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.

Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#24 - 2014-02-09 00:54:46 UTC
I'm going to try this now, but it's the the best mission.

I have to verify the FW missions and verify the PI.

I read it's possible to export, but I wonder about the tax costs in Highsec.


I can't buy a Jump Bridge in Nullsec due to nearby attacks.



It is really worth more to buy PLEX and invest in Bazaar pod pilot.
They can be sold for 100% or more profit which dwarfs the other ingame activities in over 2.5 years.


I can make over 400% profit by selling only 3 characters with the same lower start up costs.


I'm sure that the missions won't pay 3% of the 3b to 10b + I can make with the Bazaar pilots .
They'd be able to do warfare and tactics.


Mind you , I spent over $15 today for about 9 hours and that is about 1 PLEX equivalent.
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#25 - 2014-02-09 00:55:34 UTC
I really don't see your logic of arguing that I can make more ISK although I'd loose 634 to 1,268 times more ISK.
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#26 - 2014-02-09 00:56:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Oiras Isimazu
It would mean financial ruin, might as well start selling my spoils.
I risk to make more ISK.

Edit:
I don't see that as a viable military alternative for my security but rather a safe military alternative for the enemy.
Taoist Dragon
School of Applied Knowledge
#27 - 2014-02-09 01:08:00 UTC
ShockedShocked

I want to live in my own special version of reality as well!

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.

Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#28 - 2014-02-09 01:17:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Oiras Isimazu
Perhaps that's why I make every effort to keep my perception of the system more efficient than the average.

It avoids me falling to many pitfall and traps set up by other military entities.


If I was to believe without testing, I wouldn't know the level of their misconception from perception.
I wouldn't know if the errors were caused with intent to mislead me and yet, take more ISK from me.

Sure, the risk of gain can be greater, the same for looting high end NPC or other.


If it'd work for me, I wouldn't have to risk falling to prey of hardware failure, networking problems, and other mishaps.



I will test the security mission but I know it won't be worth more than 200k to 300k and takes over 15 mins to over 3 hours depending.

As for the FW mission and FW Plexing, same for me so far. To long, and not cost effective for me.


If I were to think of myself when giving suggestions or even worst, advice to others, it could be misleading them.
I would omit parameters affecting the outcome of the activity or worst.


To me, it's more used as a military tactic to deter me from reinforcing my resources and keep me weak longer.


Edit:
I'm pretty sure I don't have access to level 3 mission or level 2 on this Pod Pilot.
His standings are too low.
He's just skipping all that, and going after anomalies.

I will make at least 100% to 400% on the Bazaar though.
Contrary to any other income or losses.

The only time required is the time to get the account paid for 30 days.
Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#29 - 2014-02-09 01:37:33 UTC
Just join fw and farm lp while killing enemy militia.. can't be much simpler

Bounty hunting( other players) and pirating can be profitable but only if u know what ur doing. If not, see above. Fw is like the only pvp related activity in eve from whici you can make a steady and relatively easy profit. And its dummy friendly

Just because i am blond does not make me stoopid !

Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#30 - 2014-02-09 01:42:46 UTC
That also works with DUST 514, I just managed to play that game.

I could have launched an orbital attack.


I'll try to but I think I can make more from the Bazaar.


I'm doing a Security mission in Low sec now, and I don't think it's level 2.
Lord Azeroth
Perkone
Caldari State
#31 - 2014-02-09 02:30:08 UTC
Epic S*** right here......been laughing non-stop trying to decipher it.
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#32 - 2014-02-09 03:06:18 UTC
I made about 900k ISK which is in about 9 hours.

I don't think I can find the FW links.
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#33 - 2014-02-09 03:36:23 UTC
I just got destroyed trying to attack Blood Yard.

I tried to go repair in the nearby Low Sec system after destroying one of the Blood Yard ship.
It was too hard for me to do.

I lose 10m due to my insurance of 35m and my costs.

+ I lose on the activity since it is not profitable.

+ if I am told that I did something wrong, pay for the cost to deal with that.

Still taking more of my income and profit.

Some clients really underestimate the resources of military effective.
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#34 - 2014-02-09 03:37:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Oiras Isimazu
I did FW before and got destroyed 5 times.

I would have lost even more.

I'll post when I get my Bazaar profit and see what those previous arguments will fetch.

I don't see why I should save them and sell them.

Edit 03:39:
They are nonsense, and make no logical sense.

Edit 04:31:
+ One of my pen was stolen.
How long do you I'll better to trade on the Bazaar at 634 times more efficiency to 1,268 more times?
[Edit 2014.02.10 14:47 (Correction or putting back in place what was meant to be):
How long do you think I'll be better to trade on the Bazaar at 634 times more efficiency to 1,268 more times?]
What about 634 years to 1,268 years?

At least I'm glad the real war will show up here.
Tetsuo Tsukaya
Perkone
Caldari State
#35 - 2014-02-09 05:03:33 UTC
Oiras isimazu for CSM!
Lord Azeroth
Perkone
Caldari State
#36 - 2014-02-09 05:31:49 UTC
Tetsuo Tsukaya wrote:
Oiras isimazu for CSM!


I agree. His thoughts are more coherent than any of our current CSM members.
Pew Terror
All of it
#37 - 2014-02-09 20:21:42 UTC
Dude, please buy a plush toy then cuddle it for at least an hour.
RAW23
#38 - 2014-02-09 21:00:05 UTC
Allow me to add this equally epic thread.

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.

Katie Khardoula
Doomheim
#39 - 2014-02-10 05:52:49 UTC
Quote:
WH sounds good to me, and I never entered a Wormhole.

Except for once, when I tried to see what was inside and backed out.


Its okay, you'll lose it eventually.

Every time I see the first poster replying to the OP by quoting his entire post, I want to punch a baby

Stalking Mantis
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#40 - 2014-02-10 13:24:41 UTC
13/10

Been awhile since a quality one showed up.

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