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Disappearing Freight Containers in Space

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Sephira Galamore
Inner Beard Society
Kvitravn.
#1 - 2014-02-07 12:26:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Sephira Galamore
Just saw the news article.

What if the container is still in space now? Does that mean it's a container that is meant to stay?

Are only those containers meant to vanish with downtime those that already vanished this or a previous downtime?
BrundleMeth
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2014-02-07 12:59:36 UTC
Sephira Galamore wrote:
Just saw the news article.

What if the container is still in space now? Does that mean it's a container that is meant to stay?

Are only those containers meant to vanish with downtime that already vanished this or a previous downtime?

"and a message including a rough description of the contents of the container "

OK, my container that went missing had 400 Plex in it along with several hundred billion worth of Faction Mods...
CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#3 - 2014-02-07 15:10:29 UTC
Any unanchorable freight container (this means they literally have the words "freight container" in their name) is supposed to disappear every downtime. If yours did not for some reason, I would recommend you remove the items from it just in case. If it's one of the containers you have anchored in space, it should persist.

Also, we will of course check to see if you actually had the container before it vanished.

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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#4 - 2014-02-07 15:16:46 UTC
BrundleMeth wrote:
Sephira Galamore wrote:
Just saw the news article.

What if the container is still in space now? Does that mean it's a container that is meant to stay?

Are only those containers meant to vanish with downtime that already vanished this or a previous downtime?

"and a message including a rough description of the contents of the container "

OK, my container that went missing had 400 Plex in it along with several hundred billion worth of Faction Mods...


The logs show nothing....

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Cebraio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-02-07 15:21:28 UTC
My Freight Container had a Nyx with officer fittings in it. Please return it to me in Jita 4-4.
Sephira Galamore
Inner Beard Society
Kvitravn.
#6 - 2014-02-07 15:44:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Sephira Galamore
CCP Eterne wrote:
Any unanchorable freight container (this means they literally have the words "freight container" in their name) is supposed to disappear every downtime. If yours did not for some reason, I would recommend you remove the items from it just in case. If it's one of the containers you have anchored in space, it should persist.

Could it be that "The Starbase Factor" is coming into play here?
CCP Prism X wrote:
To avoid disrupting logistics as much as possible, we decided to give Starbases a protective field from all Fedos, Dustmen and other factors which might remove your stuff. This means that both generic junk as well as the anchorable containers will not be removed if left in close proximity to Starbases. This is regardless of who owns the item, but keep in mind that leaving things outside enemy Starbases is probably not a good way to safeguard them and their content. This setup should allow for most heavily used item caches to remain useful, hidden caches will have to be maintained and abandoned caches will leave the game freeing up resources for us all.

If not that means replacing the Freight Container with a bunch of GSCs. Seems inefficient in gameplay and server load terms.
GM Nythanos
Game Master Retirement Home
#7 - 2014-02-07 16:10:01 UTC  |  Edited by: GM Nythanos
BrundleMeth wrote:
Sephira Galamore wrote:
Just saw the news article.

What if the container is still in space now? Does that mean it's a container that is meant to stay?

Are only those containers meant to vanish with downtime that already vanished this or a previous downtime?

"and a message including a rough description of the contents of the container "

OK, my container that went missing had 400 Plex in it along with several hundred billion worth of Faction Mods...


Reimbursements aren't done on an honor system.Blink

After all, if the items don't exist then those non-existent items can't be returned.

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Cat Harkness
Twilight Labs
The Serenity Initiative
#8 - 2014-02-07 17:13:07 UTC
Sephira Galamore wrote:
Just saw the news article.

What if the container is still in space now? Does that mean it's a container that is meant to stay?

Are only those containers meant to vanish with downtime those that already vanished this or a previous downtime?


I would also like to have a clarification on this.

I have an Enormous Freight Container floating inside a force field at a POS. It was still there as of this posting (17:10 Eve time).

Should I expect it to be gone after the next downtime?

Cat Harkness

CEO

Twilight Labs
Max Kolonko
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-02-07 17:28:54 UTC
CCP Eterne wrote:
Any unanchorable freight container (this means they literally have the words "freight container" in their name) is supposed to disappear every downtime. If yours did not for some reason, I would recommend you remove the items from it just in case. If it's one of the containers you have anchored in space, it should persist.

Also, we will of course check to see if you actually had the container before it vanished.


Is there any particular reason why CCP keeps messing with people living on a pos? FIX DAMN POS before you take away any feature we use - even if it is a bug

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Max Kolonko
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-02-07 17:42:12 UTC
Pls confirm what will happen to one droped inside FF

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Raph Mendoza
Space Industries and Explorations
#11 - 2014-02-08 02:16:23 UTC
I have 2 enormous freight containers w/ custom names dropped inside the force field. Are they safe or will they disappear after sometime?
Billy McCandless
Zacharia Explorations Group
#12 - 2014-02-08 02:40:21 UTC
pls remmmem bear teh eckploiters

they is peepel two

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CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#13 - 2014-02-08 14:42:48 UTC
I'm actually not sure if they should persist inside POS fields or not. It seems like they currently are remaining, so I am guessing they're supposed to stay, but I will check with game design on Monday to see if this is intended behavior or not.

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captain foivos
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2014-02-08 15:20:00 UTC
CCP Eterne wrote:
I'm actually not sure if they should persist inside POS fields or not. It seems like they currently are remaining, so I am guessing they're supposed to stay, but I will check with game design on Monday to see if this is intended behavior or not.


It may seem a bit obvious in hindsight but try to announce this beforehand if it's getting changed.
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#15 - 2014-02-08 21:13:41 UTC
My containers are missing along with my entire collection of tech 2 bpos. Help!

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#16 - 2014-02-08 21:44:26 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
My containers are missing along with my entire collection of tech 2 bpos. Help!


Sorry. You clearly didn't follow the rules. CCP thanks you for your donation of BPOs towards those that are able to follow the rules correctly. No doubling of your BPOs unfortunately.
Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2014-02-08 21:51:01 UTC
i got a few inside pos shields persisting for weeks now.
Please notify us if they are going to evaporate, k?


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Caldari 5
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S
Affirmative.
#18 - 2014-02-09 12:09:58 UTC
FFS, I wish I had of seen this thread and associated News Article before tonights mining Op, probably about 8 Frieght containers in the belt with various amounts of Ore/Ice in them, we've been using these things for months, mega Nerf to the AU TZ
Reckless Ourtomineng
#19 - 2014-02-09 23:11:56 UTC
Lost 2 plexes inside them :S
CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#20 - 2014-02-11 13:13:12 UTC
Ok, the containers persisting at a POS appears to be intended. It is those anchored in empty space that will be removed.

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