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Trying to Develop Military Tactics to Raise Income.

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Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-02-07 23:20:27 UTC
I am working on improving a BH with a Battlecruiser or T2 BC (if at all viable).

I'm wondering if it's better to post in the Crime and Punishment Channel rather than here, Warfare & Tactics.

I know both Piracy and BH are Tactical in attributes and so can be dealt with in this channel for that aspect.


I can't really get much done in piracy due to my lack of available ingame time.
(Plus failures such as the last patch refusing to show any images once loaded.
That costs me over 1.5 hours of time just to load the client.
2/4 581 MB of 1.05 GB and counting ...)
Silverbackyererse
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2014-02-07 23:44:04 UTC
Would you like to buy my Fedo?
Tetsuo Tsukaya
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-02-08 00:04:45 UTC
I don't understand what you are trying to say. At all.
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-02-08 00:30:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Oiras Isimazu
Tetsuo Tsukaya wrote:
I don't understand what you are trying to say. At all.

I'm looking for viable military tactics to increase my income.

I found the following links and wonder if they are worthwhile, and if so, what they are worth to me:

TACTICS (USEFUL THREADS)
under Faction Warfare
Soloing Factional Warfare

... from this Warfare & Tactics Channel ยป Warfare & Tactics Resources thread.
(unfortunately linked...)

However, it looks out of date being listed as :
Posted - 2008.10.23 15:26:00.


Then
Rifter Solo PvP Guide
Also seems to be out-of-date :
Posted: 2011.09.15 13:09

Factional Warfare
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#5 - 2014-02-08 04:45:58 UTC
Silverbackyererse wrote:
Would you like to buy my Fedo?



You would sell your best friend?

Shocked
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#6 - 2014-02-08 04:49:00 UTC
Oh this guy -


Epic Posting Is Epic



He is excellent at what he does.

So funny.
Silverbackyererse
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-02-08 05:19:28 UTC
IbanezLaney wrote:
Oh this guy -


Epic Posting Is Epic



He is excellent at what he does.

So funny.



Sometimes, someone comes along and makes you forget someone else. Remember, they're not better, they're just different.
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#8 - 2014-02-08 09:47:51 UTC
Real piracy (for profit) involves a lot of gate camping and time passing on fights if you're doing it for profit. I'd honestly recommend signing up with an established pirate corp if you want to learn the ropes.
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#9 - 2014-02-08 12:23:09 UTC
IbanezLaney wrote:
Silverbackyererse wrote:
Would you like to buy my Fedo?



You would sell your best friend?

Shocked


ANYTIME
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-02-08 14:21:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Oiras Isimazu
Super Chair wrote:
Real piracy (for profit) involves a lot of gate camping and time passing on fights if you're doing it for profit. I'd honestly recommend signing up with an established pirate corp if you want to learn the ropes.

Can't afford it at this time, no opportunities for meeting the requirement for "Group".
That also includes PI.

What I'm looking for are tactical ways to improve my Pod Pilot with solo opportunities.
The only one I found related to Tactics is the BH set.
That also include some Bounty Hunting against NPC pirates.


The only group activity I am allowing myself at this time is through Fleet Command via Multi-Client.

Still better to use it for solo type objectives.


Edit 14:51:
At this point I calculate how much more profit I make by buying PLEX from CCP and investing into Bazaar characters.
Even military spoils are not even worth it to me under the circumstances.

Edit 15:01:
The ratio goes up from 634 to 1, and 1,268 to 1.
It isn't even funny.
Oska Rus
Free Ice Cream People
#11 - 2014-02-08 17:54:29 UTC
Oiras Isimazu wrote:

I'm looking for viable military tactics to increase my income.


1 enter wormhole
2 shoot red crosses
3 salvage
4 profit
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-02-08 18:20:12 UTC
Oska Rus wrote:
Oiras Isimazu wrote:

I'm looking for viable military tactics to increase my income.


1 enter wormhole
2 shoot red crosses
3 salvage
4 profit

WH sounds good to me, and I never entered a Wormhole.

Except for once, when I tried to see what was inside and backed out.


It is not that I refuse to try activities that makes less money than I can.
It's just that I want to compare and see how much.
Morgan Torry
Arma Purgatorium
#13 - 2014-02-08 20:00:38 UTC
Between your hair and your way how you word your posts, I still don't understand the point of this thread. Are you asking what PvP activities you can do to make money in game? Or are you wanting to know how to make money in-game with little time dedication (regardless if PvP or PvE)?

Arma Purgatorium - What is Podded May Never Die

Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2014-02-08 21:04:23 UTC
Morgan Torry wrote:
Between your hair and your way how you word your posts, I still don't understand the point of this thread. Are you asking what PvP activities you can do to make money in game? Or are you wanting to know how to make money in-game with little time dedication (regardless if PvP or PvE)?

I'm referring to the level of warfare, the largest battle in damage, and the tactical aspect of the warfare.
It reflects in the level of the attacks used to attack my communication, use of language.
I suspect plans to extend these activities to wider scope of damage.

That is ongoing 24/7 for over 2.5 years now, going on to the third.
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-02-08 21:07:25 UTC
I'm building another Cane now anyways, and will be testing ratting again.

I'm sure it won't equate half the profit I can generate by trading on the character Bazaar.


btw, 3 years is 30% of the time compared to 10 years of EVE Online.
In as little time as the comparison of the relative term you may or not be referring to.
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2014-02-08 21:30:20 UTC
It clearly isn't worth the claims that are being touted from potential gain.


That and the fact that it is obvious that the system is being hacked.


What if I was to start investing into making counter-attacks against the language you are using to cover up activities?
of course it wouldn't give you the light of day about what you should concentrate.
Of course it would mislead you into further wrong doing.
If I tried to hold you liable for it as I suggest those actions to you, it would more than provoke warfare.


In fact, I can honestly say, I will log off, never have to log back in to queue up skills.
All I have to do is invest in Bazaar characters which I will sell.
Then I will have won the ongoing warfare for over 2 years.


It will be the only way I have to beat the market and to do so covertly.
Other than that, I look at 634 times losses compare to my costs, up to 1,268 times more than my cost.


Sure I have to invest a few more hundreds but it will be little compared to the thousands I put in.
I can easily get 100% to 400% profit from character traded with zero risk of ingame damage.

The rest of the warfare and tactics will come in the form of hacks and electronic warfare.
I'll have to protect my work from those type of frauds as I know they will grow.

Pirates, Loyalists and other Military feed upon my assets as income from spoils.
I would probably quit trading on the Bazaar when I get my balance of investment back.
Taoist Dragon
School of Applied Knowledge
#17 - 2014-02-08 22:57:02 UTC
It's been a very long time since someone has made me just go Shocked

Having read your post all I can say is ShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShocked

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.

Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2014-02-08 23:29:00 UTC
All I can say is, it took that for me to be able to get a positive wallet value.

Next is to try to do this in Highsec.


I'm finally ratting in a BH type BC.
Taoist Dragon
School of Applied Knowledge
#19 - 2014-02-09 00:04:16 UTC
Oiras Isimazu wrote:
All I can say is, it took that for me to be able to get a positive wallet value.

Next is to try to do this in Highsec.


I'm finally ratting in a BH type BC.


What are you actually trying to do? Make isk?

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.

Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2014-02-09 00:09:29 UTC
Yes, I am trying to make ISK and calculate how much I can make.
I also calculate how much I do make.
And I compare those figures with my costs and potential income.
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