Missions & Complexes

Goldiiee is trolling, NPC corps don't do anything, because they aren't players. Neither is concord. Anyone that dies anywhere leaves their loot for the first capsuleer to come take it.

This. And to say NPC corps do NOTHING is closing to saying you don't know much about the foundations that all of us find ourselves on top of. It's my understanding that BPO's (you know those things that make it possible to build...well...ANYTHING IN THE GAME) can only come from NPC Corps to begin with.

I've always thought CONCORD's sole job was to punish the actions of criminals, not protect law abidding capsuleers and/or their assets, unlike a real police force.

If they are a police force, why do we get kill rights on anyone that performs an aggressive action without consent ?

These suggestion's are recommendations of a change in the dynamics, mechanics or lore of this sci-fi fantasy game. As a paying subscriber I myself and others that wish to change these dynamics are free to express ourselves and make recommendations. CCP as our vendor should feel free to adjust the mechanics as it is, asked for, by popular demand.

I am not attributing real world police practices to the game 'Corrupt cops are no fun' I want to return some Security to high sec, I am not preventing these players from doing it on 3/4th of the map (low, Nul, WH), I am not even asking that it be removed from the 1/4th of the map 'High Security' just want to do my part and reward Concord for killing the law breakers.

Then how about following said vendors rules and post your ideas in the Features and ideas forum?

I know why, because you're more interested in trolling the forum than ACTUALLY improving the game. Do not try and come across as altruistic when your motives are purely selfish.

I believe there is a word for that.

SOB forums ate my wall of text

I'll just condense it then.

1) I was a mission runner for years. I never got ganked, I ran expensive modules. I do not hate mission runners. I do not wish to shame them. I tried educating them with the MTU/drone aggro issue but they spat in my face because they are lazy and dumb. I still run missions every now and then. I havea sensible T2/faciton Vargur fit with a dedpsace module and never ever ever got ganked.

2) You will never ever get ganked if you are willing to put in a tiny minute amount of effert into your fit of your ship and most of the times you will run them faster and more efficiently. I have seen some of the most pathetic fits ever that cost over 6 bill and are less efficient than a T1 BS with T2 modules. You try and help them and they spit in your face. It is a disgrace and they deserve to die.

3) The NUMBERS and FACTS I have supplied show that HS destruction is NOT on the rise but percentage wise on a DECLINE. HS has already been through many, many safety buffs already, including the latest drone aggro fix. Exactly how SAFE do you WANT IT TO BE? The lower you place the bar of entry the lower the quality of people that get in. Have at least some semblance of pride in the game damn you

What you and other people are trying to do is turning this into WOW. A super safe little heaven where no bad bogeymen can get to you. Once this game becomes just another MMO, the numbers will start to decline as people get bored with it. There will be no challenge, there will be no reason to play this game. This game is unique. Both in how brutal it is and how because of that challenge the game has grown year on year for the last 10 years. There is no other MMO even close. WOW is dieing a slow death as it bleeds more and more players because it's just too damn easy and dumbed down. That is from a friend of mine who played WOW since the late 2000s

IF you really care about this game and its players, educate them on how to better themselves. How not to be the victim. Let the dregs that refuse the advice, that refuse to lift a finger to save themselves feed those capsuleers who make the friends and connections and do the research. Those who EARN it. There will always be a fresh supply of hapless HS missioners. Within that pool are those who will stand out above the others and either move on to better things within eve or stay there and better those around them, give people advice on fittings and theory craft, test, and improve. People like you SAY you are.

Stop trying to dumb down the game and rather help those around you become better players, dare I even say better people.

Give a man a fish, feed him for a day, teach a man how not to get eaten by a shark while fishing and feed him for a lifetime.

You can't grow without challenge, without adversity.

ps. You know what I detest the most about the squeaky wheel concept? It doesn't matter if what people are complaining about is valid or not. In fact weather or not it is right or wrong never comes up, only that if you whine load enough, things will go your way.

Sounds like throwing a tantrum to me.

VERY grown up indeed.

A "Make Hisec safe" thread coming from the same person who created the elitist Incursion running channel called "Incursion Shiny Network (ISN)".

You deny people from running in your Incursion fleets because they don't meet your high expectations, and now you want to whine because people shouldn't have to meet higher expectations when flying expensive ships in missions? Higher expectations = fitting correctly, watching d-scan, staying off the warp-in, and basically taking steps to not get ganked.

Let CONCORD take the loot and it disappears from the game. This means market traders will be able to increase prices on faction/deadspace items over time. So blingy ships will become even more blingy, and people will still gank them just for the joy of an efficient killboard. The idea of letting CONCORD confiscate the loot just favors market "pvpers".

Not enough content to get such a change approved. You want lessons in adding content, talk to Goons.

First step to the squeaky wheel method is to rabble rouse.

Lies are an effective way of rabble rousing, even if shown to be lies to later, people have already made up their mind.

Regardless as I have already pointed out, not ONLY is there NO evidence offered by you that the above statement is true in ANY way but I have been giving evidence of the exact OPPOSITE.

But since we are on the subject of wild conjecture, it seems a lot more plausible that your proposed change, that will completely eliminate profit driven ganking (turret banking is a horribly inaccurate term), will have even MORE people with all their alts that they plex quit eve.

I Propose that your change will have a bigger negative impact on amount of people playing eve than not implementing your change will supposedly have.

You remember when they removed insurance payout form ships destroyed by Concord? Or how about the more resent aggro changes to drones that already made HS a lot safer and removed older ways people used to get missioners to aggro them.

Also saying that there is NO risk to suicide ganking is just as misleading. The risk is ABSOLUTE, you are garunteed to lose the ship you are using with no insurance payout. Not ONLY that but you have the risk that on AVERAGE 50% of the modules will drop. if you're really unlucky none of the good stuff will drop. There is also the risk that the mission runner will be one of the smart ones and have warp stabs and a depo or have refit to bigger tank since he was scanned leaving the station. That means the risk is far FAR higher than a sensible mission runner will have. In fact a sensible mission runner will never ever be ganked for profit making it 100% risk free. Then theres the security hit that requires time and/or money to fix OR making an alt unusable for anything else HS related. Also becasue you need multiple people you run the risk of someone making off with the loot or even a neutral on a gate making off with the loot. OR how about if the mission runner drops a MTU. That's ANOTHER 50% chance that the loot gets destroyed.

It's a miracle it even happens in the FIRST place.

Lies, misleading statements, half truths. That is all I have seen you spout so far.

You have not given any reason for your proposed changes, only that you want to make HS safer than it already is. WHY?

Because it's not FAIR?

Grow up.

Haha, so A CCP Dev blog with CCP generated graphs are heresy?

Man, I know people don't think much of the dev blogs but that's a bit harsh don't you think?

Also like i said, I run missions (Ran some today in fact) and I'd rather you not lobby for me.