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Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2014-02-08 15:32:56 UTC
So recently we had two interesting supercap related events.

1st the titan massacre that ended the halloween war.
2nd that the BL /CFC weird friendship was in fact related to supply of supers.

This suggests to me that it is too easy to create a Supercap monopoly (or duoploy in this case).
There have been previous calls to lower the mineral requirements of supers so that more people can afford to build and lose these things. I add my voice to this call.
In addition i would suggest removing the sov requirements for building these. Let them be built in 0.4 or lower systems.
More being built means more baby supers killed.
It means more easily replaced so more usage of them (the build time should stay very long ofc).
It means more people can run super related scams.
More people having access to supers will lead to more super ganks.

Tl:Dr.
If a group like BL has problems sourcing supercaps then clearly all smaller groups will have problems sourcing them. This tends to hegemony and is bad for eve.

Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85
HiddenPorpoise
Jarlhettur's Drop
United Federation of Conifers
#2 - 2014-02-08 15:43:46 UTC
That makes things even worse, now Goon/PL can have EVERYONE in a super. And kill who that don't want in supers.
Thelonious Blake
Miles Research and Development
#3 - 2014-02-08 15:56:25 UTC
Silvetica Dian wrote:
[...] removing the sov requirements for building these. [...]


This not only means everyone and their grandmother will have a titan (40m+ EHP) but also you'd be able to build them in WHs.

I don't have a super nor I have any experience or whatsoever of flying one / being in a fleet with etc., but IMO easier access to supers will break the game on too many levels.
ExookiZ
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#4 - 2014-02-08 15:59:11 UTC
wrong direction. Supercaps are bad for the game, making them more prevalent doesnt help anything.

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Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2014-02-08 16:09:37 UTC
ExookiZ wrote:
wrong direction. Supercaps are bad for the game, making them more prevalent doesnt help anything.


Fair enough. i have no issues with getting rid of them either. I just don't like the fact that so few people have control over their production that they can use them to leverage behaviour of even powerful null sec mercs.
Available to all (with all the normal risks) or available to no one. I don't care which.
Also just don't let them be built in WH's. Solves that issue.

Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85
Seranova Farreach
Biomass Negative
#6 - 2014-02-08 18:29:40 UTC
Silvetica Dian wrote:
ExookiZ wrote:
wrong direction. Supercaps are bad for the game, making them more prevalent doesnt help anything.


Fair enough. i have no issues with getting rid of them either. I just don't like the fact that so few people have control over their production that they can use them to leverage behaviour of even powerful null sec mercs.
Available to all (with all the normal risks) or available to no one. I don't care which.
Also just don't let them be built in WH's. Solves that issue.



i agree dont let there be supers/titans in Wspace or itll just become worse then null

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