EVE General Discussion

Here is a idea for a S&I fix !
if the items is in the game or on the market list them there should be a BPO or BPC for it .
or at least the parts to make or research it

@CCP_Arrow:
Is there an ending date for the survey?
Will the results be published? Just to compare my personal views with the views of others.

Some of the questions are a bit worrying indeed. Others just hard to understand.
To the 'easy' or 'hard' part I answered either easy or didn't try. It's easy after you understand it and have some experience with it, just as with everything else.
I mainly do solo work because I want to be independent. Coop could mean I have to schedule my RL to work together with people and I don't want that. I also want to be able to take a week or two leave whenever I need to, without screwing up anyone else. My part of the coop is through market and that's fine.
I'm also fine with having some possibilities for more coop play, as long as it's not forced on me in any way (as in, don't nerf solo S&I just let people that enjoy working together have more tools for that).

I was thinking while I was responding to the survey that would it be possible to see what the players whant after you have finnished studying the survey?

I know I can get the details from reading the forums but they are different in a way so a nice chart or two would be nice

305 clicks to do a typical T2 module production run with a 10 slot character (copying, invention and manufacturing), not including the logistics. Just appalling. I tried this on my work computer which has stupid RSI monitoring software installed and it went mad. It even gave me a little angry face in the task bar! Great fun.

CCP, you should be ashamed for leaving this for so long without even small quality of life improvements. Even if we can't batch install jobs, just remembering the last input would be an enormous help.

How did I not notice this until now!!!

Reduce the click fest. Give us batch jobs to install 10 similar jobs on 10 lines simultaneously.

Give us a "remember settings" check box that autopopulates fields with number of copies, copies per run, number of runs, etc". You know, like traders have a remember settings for setting up market orders!

Give us a "favorites list" that we can add installations too. That way we don't have to look at all the possible facilities within a region or system when finding an installation to utilize, but can instantly narrow our search to a few select stations!

That's the very reason that I got into Eve 3rd party development. The other blueprint calculators worked, but they took more 'work' to use than I liked, when you wanted to change things.

So I added sliders. Then just kept on adding things to make it one screen that could do almost anything.

We should be able to build cities on planets! Not just the usual PI! Like have building cities as modules that give bonuses to production. Like even things like population of the colonies, how happy they are, or if they are sick, etc could effect production! It'd be cool and even make the game more personalized!

Today I once again looked for industry slots in highsec.

Can you please provide unlimited slots and scale the costs associated with them according to demand? Right now it's just looking at 60 day timers...

Survey completed - 8 years playing, about 50 / 50 PVP and industry and I've done it all pretty much with the exception of Outpost plopping (though I know how it is done).

The complexity of S&I is great in some areas such as PI production chains, but terrible in other areas - Extra materials, POS silo linking and POS in general, T3 productions, combat booster production and all the governing rules and (lack of) up to date information quickly spring to mind. The main issue is not the complexity but the isolation of 90% of industrial tasks from the rest of Eve's core gameplay.

I'd like to see a dramatic shift in S&I from being a risk free, isolated, in station activity, to refocusing on bringing all the activity BACK to asteroid belts.

My greatest feature requests are for deployable facilities that are set up either personally / corporate or alliance to manufacture, research, refine/reprocess, PI production facilities, and protect mining (with a low HP forcefield) within belts.

The principle of making these facilities targets of small gangs (with small weapons ~ as defined by ultra low sig radius structures) and at risk from *delaying or slowing* the job progress, and making belts the hive of activity they should be.

This new feature would not replace existing mechanics, but it should provide a significant advantage over 'safe' production to mitigate the risks involved. Some Asteroid Belt based facilities I'd like to see:

• T2 BPO labs - These would be capable of consuming a T1 BPO, and via a VERY long term production job such as 3-6 to 12 months that requires constant input of RDBs, Scientists and other materials to keep pace - eventually produces the relevant T2 BPO.
• PI Process Facility - A Facility capable of performing Basic or Advanced PI production chains but at much higher volumes, at slower speeds, with the potential for being 'Raided' and siphoned.
• A T3 Forcefield facility - A 15km radius forcefield of Low HP (circa 10k with only 50m Signature radius), Capable of slotting 6 subsystems each capable of 33% resistance to effectively allow 99% resistance to two damage selectable types, which stops people outside from targetting, and stop people inside from warping, jumpdriving or microjumping. This would be a mining retreat, that would allow people to actually mine in low or nullsec. Would also require ability to Interdict with bubbles in low and highsec belts. I'd like to see upto 3 of these anchorable within 10km of eachother to potentially provide an elliptical field stretching the length of a belt.
• A slow but efficient refinery for miners to refine Ore locally then feed directly it into production facilities (also in belts)

By taking whole production chains and putting them at risk and in belts, it gives PVPers a direct focus but much as the new deployable 'yurt' personal hangers - that by their prevalence and how common they would be, give them a form of protection by sheer numbers. Of course it also promotes active defense and active industrial participation if these facilities require regular support to keep them churning.

This is just a post to provide CCP with food for thought based on what I think would be good for the game.
It is not an open idea for public critique - so I will not be entering pointless public discussion of my ideas which I'm sure many people will dislike and disagree with.

If there is significant interest or support I'd consider taking my conceptual ideas and refining them and posting a proper Feature request on the ideas forum.

Thanks, Vyk.