EVE General Discussion

They certainly could have gone further, they had decent numbers, participation, and a good number of them are fairly rich due to FW. And of course newbies.

But apparently after they got their sov, it was all "mission accomplished, let's go back and stomp the minmatar in FW again" and welp...

A fair question. Some of them apparently wander around on ops with us, but the manner in which they can ruthlessly stomp on the minmatar militia is very much like the way cfc wins wars.

Not that they learned it from us, they were doing it before they took an adventure into null.

We could actually use them back in Delve, I think TEST is apparently going to be the content of the day, and they really strike it off with Fweddit.

They are pretty good posters. If they're in fleets with us, they tend to post more on our forums.

I can't see fweddit forums, because I'm not in fweddit

What could they have done different? What would you have done in their place?

- Good participation and activity in PvP. No one in 0.0 likes corporations with mostly passive players that only do PvE or are not logging in (except in some renter alliances).

- In most cases you can disregard your killboard stats. It does not matter if you have more losses than wins on your corp killboard as long as you are not loosing ships in stupid situations - like a 20bil freighter in highsec, faction fitted battleships in missions or carriers in complexes. Why it isn't important? Because once you're in a 0.0 alliance, you are effectively a drone that is expected to listen to FC's commands and press F1 when necessary.
That being said, there are still some alliances that care for your personal ability to PvP in a small-ish groups, but they are getting rare these days.

- You'll need at least one Jump Freighter pilot with a Jump Freighter and cyno alts placed in midpoints from highsec to your home in 0.0. What I have learned while I was in 0.0 is that no matter how big or organized the alliance is and how corp leadership or recruiters say that markets in their space are well-stocked, trust me they are not. The market is most likely filled with useless and/or overpriced c*** and sometimes, if you're lucky, there are reasonably priced fleet fitted ships on contracts. So either you can rely on a JF service (most alliances have at least one) and wait for your ordered items, or you can have your own JF and haul your corp's stuff whenever you need. It is also necessary while you move in, so you can carry your corp's stuff to your new home at your own pace.

- If you are planning to do some mining (ice or advanced ore), a Rorqual is very helpful. Apart from providing bonuses for the mining fleet, it can also compress the ore/ice and can cyno jump to lowsec so you can export the ore. If you are a corp that is just stepping into 0.0, you can forget about owning a POS in your alliance space. Since you can't own a POS, you can forget about any form of even a medium scale industry in your home space. This is why it is most logical to export the ore to highsec (unless, of course, your alliance has mineral buyout program).

- If you are doing industry, you will need an alt corporation in highsec with POS-es that will do industry for you. An alt corporation is used, not your main one, because of the wardecs. Most of the 0.0 alliances are constantly at war with someone - be it their enemies, mercs or random corps that want a lot of targets in trade hubs. Simply place all your industrial alts in that highsec corporation and proceed with your activity as usual.

- Some alliances require mobility of all their members as they are deployed in different places in the universe frequently. It's a small number of alliances, but make sure you ask the alliance recruiter about it. If the alliance is based on this nomad style of game play, you could need your own carriers with Jump Drive Calibration and Jump Fuel Conservation on 5.

- An alternative ISK source is a good thing to have. Whether it's industry, PI, highsec mission running alts or Factional warfare alts, it's good to have something that can bring ISK regardless of the situation in your home space in 0.0.

- A good corp diplomat that can work with the alliance leadership to achieve better position for your corp within the alliance. Paired with good activity and fleet participation, it can bring your corp better status within the alliance: reserved industrial slots in your home space, ability to own and maintain POS-es, ability to have your own station (depends on the alliance policy), moon mining rights, alliance level ship reimbursement, and so on.

- At least one good FC. Having good and active FC's is usually the best ticket for an 0.0 alliance.

There's more to it, but these are (at least by my opinion) the most important bits. Have fun

I would say the biger is your corp combat potential the higher chance geting to a "good" null ally/coalition.

The number of people that join corp/alliance fleets and the ships they're in. More people in fleets with proper ships = more combat potential.

Having a pair helps. In short supply in null these days. People that aren't afraid of reds. That sort of thing.

If CCP changed industry so that it was possible to rationally supply my weapons/ships/miscellaneous needs in nullsec completely, I would biomass my Jita alt and I don't think I'd ever go above 0.4 space ever again.


Except possibly to shoot untanked mining barges.

You seem particularly bitter, what space did we take from you?