Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Meh, better idea would be to introduce command ships in frig and dessie classes. Much more needed, much more useful, much more fun, much more accessible to new players, much more explodable.

BPC typically require a lot more LP than that and a lot less isk. Seriously those amounts of LP pretty much represent.. 4-5 missions at most.

No matter your intention it is still about introducing more caps into a game that really doesn't need any more of them. And reason for it is that in YOUR OPINION there is too much ISK flowing around.

I don't want to introduce more caps in the game, and im talking about the only capital ship that is not abused.
If you want to have DPS on dread you have to siege.

Bonuses of those navy/pirate versions will not be affecting main aspect of dread - DPS.
You will not see more caps - just faction ones.





No im not talking about this kind of abuse.
All Navy will get the same bonus - for example 10% more armor or shield.
All Pirate will again get the same bonus - for example 15% cap recharge .

They just will be a bit better than normal ones and Pirate faction will be again a bit better than Navy ones.

I actually have to disagree with both of you. Eve could use more capitals. Not stupidly broken Supers, or mega fleet Slow cats, but more capitals.

There is a decent amount of support for something in the field of an escort/light carrier. The details for the idea vary from group to group, but something like this could definitely be used considerably.

Less rep/tank than a carrier
Less drone bay
Less ship maint. bay
Some iterations float the idea of it being able to fit a couple capital turrets, or a rack of large weapons
Cheaper to build
Easier to get into
Some iterations sway back and forth on the fighters
Some iterations disagree on whether this should be high sec or just low/null capable, but high sec capable minus capital mods + bonuses to large(significant bonuses) has been tossed around.

Basic idea is like a battle orca + Domi

I'd really like to see that.


I'd also like to see a combat oriented cap, something built to stay on the field for a long time, if not do tons of DPS.

And another ship along the lines of the dread, but able to more DPS out of siege, but much less while in it, with all the penalties of x-l weapons.


Eve has plenty of room for capital expansion. Cap expansion may be the answer to the cap problem where nothing else really can be. But only 4 caps, at least 2 of which are stupidly broken, is not good for the game.

If they will have same DPS but better tank or cap they will completely replace current dreads because nobody uses inferior ships unless it is for lolz or out of boredom or their own preference And caps are rather not a class of ships where you choose one over another just for lolz.

And with amount of grind people are capable of doing there is no way new dreads would stay very unique and exceptional commodity. Unless their prices would be at ludicrous levels which would simply lead them to being mostly ignored.

At least that is my opinion.

sure, after they fix Phoenix issue

otherwise Navy Phoenix is just piece of junk with camo paint.

You do realise that's less LP than a one run BPC for a bloody FRIGATE, right?

But the people who are going to be buying these things will view 250, or even 500 million ISK as pocket change. It's not a particularly good ISK sink..


Hell, I just went and checked. A battleship BPC costs 200 million. Fifty million over that price is a joke.

Hahahaha. Just had an amusing thought. Angels ships are OP because they are fast and agile. Angel's Dreadnaught has agility and mass bonuses, and then it activates siege LOLOLOLOL.