Player Features and Ideas Discussion

That isn't a game issue though. That is a personal issue. Altering the game to appease what amounts to personality traits outside of game is laughable at best. I am sorry but there is no force in the game that prevents people from venturing to low or null sec. There are numerous forces that encourage them to go, more isk to be made, more things to explore, more ship types to build and fly, and yes PvP. If people don't go its because THEY themselves do not wish to go.

It has nothing to do with the game itself. There is no sudden wall or obstacle in game players must clear to enter lowsec or null sec. The wall is a psychological issue in oneself. Unless you take risk out of the equation entirely people who are overly connected to pixels in this game will not risk them...and that is just the way it is.

"And yet I'm going to make another one because this time it'll be different because it's MY identical thread and I'm a special snowflake!"

This is why we can't have a nice GD.

Incorrect. I don't tell anyone that, because it's unnecessary.

All you have to do is warp to the appropriate gate at zero, and click 'Jump.'

No second account needed. No outlay of extra RL funds required.

I do it all the time on this and other alts. Rarely is the boogeyman waiting for you on the other side. When he is, you either escape, or you don't. If you don't then you dust off, get a new ship, and try again later.

Refer to MOO for Tankable/Escapable concord and what happens. It would happen even faster and more wide spread now if Concord was tankable.

LOL this is going to be another thread that you two turn to ****, isn't it?

I think its pretty simple why they stay in high sec. If as most high sec people are, small group or solo players, you were a small group or a solo player would you like to jump into a system, spawning at 15km, which is 95km less than a linked Arazu can disrupt, 30km less than a large bubble can infinite point you, 30km less than a intie can insta lock and disrupt you, ....

In 2003, we were spawning 15km from the gate, in 2003 there was only a 7k scrambler and a 20km disruptor. Scramble ranges have increased by hundreds of percentages, new tackling ships, super fast locking, super long range, boosted, linked, and massively increased group sizes...

but we're still spawning at 15k :)

Also CCP's idea to get people out to null is great, but they're only able to do that in very small ships (inties, covert ops) or T3's with any reasonable chance of gettting back. Very few options to do stuff out there in those (apart from T3 but they're very expensive to lose, iskwise and skillpoint loss wise).

Get a cheap-ish ship with a decent fit, and go to low.

I don't play much lately, but I enjoy going into lowsec with an Ishtar to run combat sites.

If you're in to the isk/hour thing, this really isn't for you. If you're ready to stab yourself in the face rather than do another lvl 4 mission, it's really fun.

There's plenty of systems with almost no one in them, and very light traffic through them. I've been on plenty of 2-3 hour lowsec roams with literally nothing.*******.going.on.anywhere.

Living in highsec is a matter of convenience for me. Close to lowsec, close to a trade hub, close to mission systems etc.

That being said, if I only have 1 hour to play I'd rather lose an Ishtar in lowsec and get the adrenaline going than running a couple lvl 4 missions and get drunk, then wonder why I even play this game.

Get a covops, get a cheap clone, go check out the local lowsec, try doing some sites, stop being carebear.

Small steps. You'll probably like it.

Yeah, you obviously don't want to go from lvl 4's in a crazy fit CNR to taking a stroll through Rancer :)

I used to run a Wolf/Jag through lowsec when I was bored just to "check it out". Heart thumping the whole time. It was great.

It's just really not that scary, if you're not stupid about it. Cheap clone, cheap ship, cheap fit. Run a half dozen systems into low, then turn around and run back to high. Best time any carebear will spend in EvE; definitely a game changer.

Shock of transition from hisec to lowsec is only in a head of person making that first jump. I see a lot of newbies making that jump and they don't know/don't care about ANY precautions that would save them from being ganked in a matter of minutes if not seconds from the moment they appear in local.

I mean minimal effort of reading about basic survival techniques outside of hisec like d-scan, probes in overview settings, making safes, not warping to celestials at zero, etc. All those things are described in huge amount of places and videos, all you need to do it google "how to survive in lowsec".

But no, they will happily jump their first dessie or frig, go to nearest belt and be oblivious to anything happening around them. I once had to burn 130km to some newbie, flashing red on his overview like a motherfrakker and he just continued to struggle with some small rats.

Anybody saying lowsec is sure death is complete failure at game of survival. There is so much free intel around and ways to avoid losing ships and pods that all you need to do is make minuscule effort to gain advantage over those who hunt behind the gates. Sure camps happen, ships explode but most of them not because lowsec dwellers are ebil piwates but because stupidity and laziness of those who got exploded. And those need to be purged with fire.

Let's agree to not dictate each other how to play a game we both are paying for with our own money, ok?

Also I see you are space psychologist. Do you also practice space law?