EVE General Discussion

The giant alliances own all the high value POCOs and set up agreements to not attack each other, primarily RvB and Goons. Since then, there have been very few battles.

Something I have noticed is that when CCP creates ownable sources of incomes in order to drive conflict, it fails hard. Alliances are extremely cautious about their income. They will immediately set up treaties to ensure no big alliance interferes with another big alliance's income.

In order for their to be conflict, small groups need to be able to hurt the big alliances.

Absolutely true.
But it won't happen.

CCP is going in the other direction, where the cartels are being handed MORE income streams that are 100% risk-free, not less.
The ESS was supposed to be a conflict driver. Almost immediately goons buried them deep inside a low value anom, essentially making them untouchable. CCP feels that is working as designed.

And just wait until the summer release changes are announced, and MORE high sec income streams are gifted to the cartels.

The income stream for PI is not worth it. Its hardly worth the initial setup let alone the regular maintenance. If you amortize your market research, spreadsheet development, process engineering development and iteration time the only thing approaching a useful use of your time are factory planets. Planet value in that case could be measured in jumps from Jita with a gank loss allowance or shipping expense. Then you have to add taxes for import and export creating way to much friction through the meta system.

Taxes kill things, that's one of their main uses, to regulate commerce. They are a nerf to the whole system and not a buff even for the owners.

Taxes should allow increased efficiencies through infrastructure and security increases and associated loss reductions. Instead these taxes do just the opposite. There is no increased production on the planets with taxed structures, The ESS got 5% plus LP but POCOS get nothing except a skillbook offset. The takeover of systems closest to Jita only increase shipping expenses. By rights rates should drop as distance from Jita increases to offset increased freight expenses. The owners of the Pocos beyond the gank points should police the gank points to help their customers through and therefore increase their own incomes. In short the PVP morons taking over Pocos should stick to ganking noobs. CCP should buff planets with Pocos and System owners should protect their routes and even supply Command centers for their customers and maybe recruit clueless noobs with offers of these command centers..

No way anybody deserves a dime of my isk or a drop of my sweat without something in return. Grinding a structure that presents absolutely zero risk of retaliation during the grind doesn't entitle pvp morons to jack S$%^ let alone even one unit of projectile ammo.

Yes...that would be like Micronesia trying to form a cartel with the other Polynesian powerhouses to attack the united states. Yeah, that would work. Or how about some groups like PL and N3 forming an alliance to deal with goons. How did that work out again?

The point is as soon as this *Snip* Please refrain from using profanity. ISD Ezwal. mechanism was suggested by CCP, people said that the cartels would immediately take over, and the goons gloated about it day one of the feature being discussed, and within hours of it going live, they and the RVB
*Snip* Please refrain from using profanity. ISD Ezwal. took every PoCo that they wanted.

See, I don't have 500 million / week to burn to fight the goons or RvB in wardec fees, let alone ship costs.
All part of the gifts CCP keeps on giving the cartels. Make wardec fees so high for large groups that smaller groups can't afford it. The logic of that was that the groups like E-UNI would not be griefed by 3 man corps. But naturally, groups like the goons are protected by the same brush.

I don't see any reason for why these established groups need a harder time holding highsec POCOs

Just because you have a personal beef with them is not really a valid excuse

The problem is that the size of an coalitions makes it easier to do stuff. Every alliance/coaliation income stream is is easier to obteain/maintain with a bigger group than the competidor next to you. As of that fact, there will be 1 winning team that can not be beaten as the pieces of the pie are becomming so big that they can not be beaten anymore.

This is where EVE is unbalanced in and will be untill this changes. There should be a incentive that act as a counter for simple blueing up everyone to make it easier. My vision is that standings should cost isk as a incentive to find the most optimal isk/reward price.

sounds like you're asking for ccp to do the fighting for you

Yes well that's because outside of Goonswarm people are allowed to vote for who they want to, instead of whoever Mittens orders them to.

I'd suggest you try it sometime, but "free will" and "obedient little worker drones" don't really mix. At least your bee logo is honest.

Point being that non-Goon candidates have to actually posses desirable human qualities, such as like charm, charisma, and sometimes even sobriety. Luckily your hive block vote gives all your CSMs a free pass on all of that.

And with that comes having to compete with other people of quality. That competition can get pretty fierce, as many intelligent and noble specimens of humanity step forth to see which amongst them can appeal the broadest spectrum of the player base. Luckily you're guys are exempt from all that, which is pretty handy when you have, like, literally zero friends. But that's the whole point, right?

Anyway, I'm sure he has better things to do with his time, and frankly so do you. We carebears need more T2 junk, so go run along and fetch us more moon-goo for the Jita market, pubbie.

Seems more like working as intended to me.

Now I can see why people haze you. You come off as an arrogant ****. I hope you never stop getting trolled to be quite honest. Maybe people do have it out for you...but I can certainly see why. Im going to nominate you for CSM now just to hopefully harvest some tears during election time.