EVE New Citizens Q&A

Welcome! As old as this game is, there are still plenty of players joining so don't worry about that aspect.

I've never seen Star Citizen, but I have been playing MMO's for years as well, and this game is a breath of fresh air for me. You might find it the same.

There really is no endgame to this game since there are activities for new players and old. I highly reccomend the tutorials so you can get an idea of what this game offers.

In the meantime, enjoy and have fun :)

I can't speak on Star Citizen, I don't know enough about it to compare it to Eve.

As far as this game and new players goes, yes, there is plenty for new players to do. And if you specialize in a certain type of ship or area of the game, you can rather quickly compete with the veteran players. There isn't really a grind in EVE. Because the training is done in real time (even when you're not logged in) You're never having to grind skills or levels to get your character to end game content. In fact many people would argue a sandbox game like Eve doesn't really have "end game" content, the game is what you make of it. The developers have done a better job than any other game I'm aware of in creating a world, with various toys, resources, etc, and then telling the player base "have fun, go nuts. Let's see what you can do"

That's essentially what Eve is. A world where you can go out and do whatever you feel like doing. You're not sent from one zone, to the next zone that's a bit harder, to level up. You strive for the goals you have made yourself. Amass wealth, become an ace combat pilot, organize and run a successful corporation, manipulate the markets. Whatever you want to do. The galaxy is your playground.

While EVE is a space game and an MMO, most similarities to other games end there.

The main difference is that EVE is a true "Sandbox" game. Most other MMOs are Theme Park, where the game guides you along to pretty much a predefined "Road"M After the first few tutorials, it sets you loose and says, good luck, do what you want or don't, it's up to you.

If you stick with it, it will grow on you and would explain in part to why it has lasted over 10 years and not gone free to play.

And don't worry about being new. Hell, most of us don't log in every second of the day, maybe only for an hour, but you can always find something to do and the best part is that you are always training and getting the skulls you need. With PI, I am even making money while logged out and only check that and move a few things around about a half hour every other day.

Good luck.


Shane

Welcome aboard

About the only thing they have in common is the setting as far as I know, it's kind of difficult to comment on SC because at the moment it's what many call vapourware.

That's a common misconception, everything in Eve has a skill cap, a pilot with 50 million skillpoints in a frigate is only using a very small portion of those skills, by specialising you can close that gap fairly rapidly. The major differences will be knowledge of game mechanics and knowing what your ship is capable of. There's plenty of fun to be had as a newbie, you can be PvP effective in a matter of hours, everybody loves hero tackle.

The only endgame in Eve is the one that you set for yourself, there is no official endgame and one of the allures of Eve is that players create 80% of the content. All the huge fights, robberies and scams that hit the news are created by players, not devs.

Ships in Eve are disposable tools, consider them exploded when you undock, it's a bonus if you get to redock in them. When you lose ships to other players, and you will lose ships, convo them and ask for tips about ship fits and tactics, many will be more than willing to help and will sometimes even reimburse your losses for having a good attitude, others will ridicule you, ignore them.

Be warned though it is a harsh game with very real losses. Eve is not for everyone, you either get it or you don't. Even if you don't get it, you'll probably find yourself coming back and trying again.

I'll leave some useful links for you down here :
New Pilot FAQ *essential reading, it's a good intro
The rules *may be a little out of date with regards to timers, but generally worth reading
Eve Uni Wiki *better than the official wiki and quite indepth
Eve Survival *if doing missions is your thing, this is an essential resource
Tippias newbie skill plan *some skill names may have changed
Eve Fitting Tool *out of game ship fitting tool
Evemon *out of game skill planning tool

Fly safe, or not

The GrimFandango reboot will be out before S.C.

As stated above, SC right now is vaporware, meaning there is nothing to play or do, just some nice things to try and separate you from your money and a lot of promises that no one has any idea if they can be kept.

Personally the more I read and learn about SC the more its sounding like a game that will not be for me.

As a 10 year eve vet, who is mostly industrial, a noob in a frig could kill me easily. Skill means nothing, if you plan, and learn what you are getting into. You could kill a maxed out pvp if you have the right fitting and ship to counter his.

And eve is what you make of it. When you get bored of one thing, there are prolly a million other things you can try and do.

EvE is compelling when your activity is based on people and stories.

By people, I mean you get longevity by being in a corp or alliance with good people on comms to interact with. If you cut yourself off from social play, its harder to avoid bitter vet burnout

Secondly, by stories I mean that you have to understand that EvE is about generating your own content (in conjunction with point #1, people). If your expecting people or PVE missions to do that for you, you will be disappointed over time.

Give this a read for a sampling of other people and their stories, and some insight on what to expect, or what is possible -- even for a single person to achieve.

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Wow, thanks a lot for all the replies. Really didn't expect this many people to respond, seems like there are still a lot of players in here even though it's an old game. And I'm loving it :) One of the best things I like is that there isn't a huge grind, the skill learning isn't dependant upon how many hours I spend online.

Thanks for the warnings about being prepared to lose it all, I think I'm fine with getting killed and losing my stuff but maybe I'm just naive and the reality doesn't kick in until it actually happens :) Until then, I guess I'll try enjoy myself as best I can.

Here's a little something I posted in another newbie thread that I think will give you some perspective in EVE...

EVE has more in common with Real Time Strategy games than First Person Shooters or Role Playing Games. The choices you make (both as a player and with your character) have more tactical benefits and consequences than anything else.

So if you enjoy building relationships with others, outsmarting those who wish you harm, using/bending mechanics to your advantage, and carving a niche for yourself despite what others may do... you may go far in EVE no matter what specialty you wish to go into.

If you are more of the "Bushido" style player, want to be left alone to do your own thing, and/or think that power means having the best ships/modifications/weapons, most wealth, and/or highest level skills... you may be in for a rough time.


What one guy said about EVE (that is very true)...

"You, the new player, are an adorable golden haired child. You are released, alone but with a map, into a large wilderness park teeming with tens of thousands of rapacious pedophiles. If you are cunning, tenacious and lucky, you can eventually become one of the pedophiles."
~Malcanis