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What's the future of Low Sec?
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Evilishah
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-02-06 16:42:33 UTC
So years ago, I vaguely remember CCP all but saying that they wanted to provide meaning to low sec.

I'm relatively recently returning, has it been changed aside from a little bit more isk farming in the form of clone tags?

Has there been talk about adding features to make low sec more meaningful outside of FW?
BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
#2 - 2014-02-06 16:44:01 UTC
Word is that they are going to lower low sec even more and rename it the lowest sec.

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Ninteen Seventy-Nine
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2014-02-06 16:46:43 UTC
The future of low sec is blood and guts and smouldering hulls

same as it ever was

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#4 - 2014-02-06 16:48:41 UTC
Low sec is the worst of both worlds. A failed experiment. A poor compromise.

Split it down the middle between high and null is the only solution that makes sense, in my opinion.

Mr Epeen Cool
EmoKidWithKantana
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2014-02-06 16:54:31 UTC
Well, right now it's EVE's real endgame, and the place most competent PVP'ers end up, really what else more then that does it actually need to be?
seth Hendar
I love you miners
#6 - 2014-02-06 16:58:32 UTC
Evilishah wrote:
So years ago, I vaguely remember CCP all but saying that they wanted to provide meaning to low sec.

I'm relatively recently returning, has it been changed aside from a little bit more isk farming in the form of clone tags?

Has there been talk about adding features to make low sec more meaningful outside of FW?

actually, from the past 2 years expansion, i just pray that CCP doesn't even touch it....at all.....

they already helped making it even more empty with the odyssey exploration, i don't want them to even consider touching it anymore.

and we all know how bad it is

more or less like the black ops, they are in bad shape, but ppl just hope CCP forget about touching it
Alduin666 Shikkoken
Doomheim
#7 - 2014-02-06 17:07:26 UTC
I've been living in low sec the past few months. Its been fun as there are a lot more carebears and neuts in general then nullsec. I once found a hulk in an ice belt but before his hull blew up he ejected. I just took his hulk and sold it for 200 mil. I would have never gotten experiences like that in high or null.

I am quite pleased with low sec right now, the only change I would like to see is maybe making some actual non-FW isk making opportunities.

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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#8 - 2014-02-06 17:13:14 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Low sec is the worst of both worlds. A failed experiment. A poor compromise.

Split it down the middle between high and null is the only solution that makes sense, in my opinion.

Mr Epeen Cool


This is a terrible idea, understand that most of us who live in lowsec are here because we dont want to deal with nullsec drama and bullshit whilest still enjoying the freedom to pvp as and when we chose. Rest of them are making money off faction warfare but thats neither here nor there.

Just because you personally cant find a reason to come and live here doesnt mean you get to wreck it for those of us that do.

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Othran
Route One
#9 - 2014-02-06 17:20:40 UTC
Seems like low-sec is destined to be FW or staging/transit posts for null.

I've long since given up trying to work out what could be done for low-sec (apart from fixing FW some more).

If its more profitable than null then it gets flooded with nullsec alts/corps (like the great FW goldrush). Power projection makes any sort of moon goo risky to say the least.

Preventing supercaps entering lowsec is a change I'd like to see but things are what they are so that won't happen.
Mario Putzo
#10 - 2014-02-06 17:21:11 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
IMO Lowsec is the best space in the game. Better PvP than Null, better PvE than Highsec. Can use all the toys with supers being limpdicked in lowsec. (real subcap brawls and real capital fights no *Snip* Please refrain from using profanity. ISD Ezwal. 2K man blobwars). FW has helped to consolidate PvP from PvE in the sense most pirates are kind of centralizing around FW zones. Which allows PvE dudes more flexibility to grow *Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.

The only thing really missing is identity. The only reason to go to lowsec I think is to PvP. It really is the best place for it, but other than KB stats and the occasional loot pinata there isn't really anything gained by being in lowsec. Unless you are in FW. I almost wish that there was a mini sov like game in Lowsec to the point where Gate Guns/Station Guns won't shoot your ass if you control X% of the PoCos in the system. So not total sov ownership, but a benefit for dominating an area.

currently lowsec is the best space in the game. It could be made even better and more rewarding if CCP were to vastly increase regional distances in null sec...in the sense you can't jump capitals/supers from region to region without going through lowsec first. Kind of like the distance between Tenal and Cobalt in the North East. Thus controlling gateway systems (such as Akkio:Forge > EoA:Geminate) would be really important to null communities, and pirate communities would obviously love to have the chance to clamp down a system and bag Capital kills as they move through the system to their Null region.

But to specifically answer the question nothing has really been changed other than FW. There is some increase to the required production stuff from lowsec, but nothing to really be a content driver imo. Outside of FW its the same old thing. But its still the best place to play the game without needing 50K blues and 2K man blobs at your side.
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#11 - 2014-02-06 17:29:00 UTC
Wait. Low Sec is still a thing?

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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
#12 - 2014-02-06 17:47:38 UTC
The future of low sec will likely be much the same as its past, it will serve as the no mans land buffer against much of the random incursion from high sec for those with sov in null sec.

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Evilishah
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2014-02-06 18:01:50 UTC
I think lowsec is definitely the place to go for small gang pvp, but my problem is that 1. you need an alt unless you want to deal with the pain in the ass that is low sec status (though admittedly it is easier than ever to grind out).

I do remember reading something that the distant vision for eve is that everything is player run to include sec status punishments (am I mistaken in that)?

I think what I mean by my question is what reason is there to go to low sec. It seems that short of FW and Incursions (and of course faster travel), there is no reason at all to low sec.

The last time I spent any significant time in low sec was about two years ago, but the ganking wasn't that great (definitely better in a bubble camp in null), and the pvp wasn't that great either (though you would occasionally run into a decent small gang fight). It was a weird mix of high sec station wars and null sec blobs in which the average kill was still 10 on 1. I remember the vast majority of my time was spent on a gate in a buffer tank or sniper or else it was in something fun to fly like a firetail hoping to bait someone into taking a pot shot which rarely, rarely happened.

If you add in that it probably has the worst risk/reward of any EVE area, it is a place to find a fight but nothing more (which maybe how the majority of people like it?).

I'm not sure what I want out of low sec, but I'd like to keep it roughly as is, but it needs a reason to get people there. There are two types of lowsec systems: FW hubs and ghost towns.

In my opinion, it has the most potential but the worst implementation.
James Nikolas Tesla
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-02-06 18:08:20 UTC
I only go into LoSec to ninja some Jaspet, then I'm out.

CODE is just a bunch of pirates; smart, organized pirates. It doesn't help to rage at them because that is exactly what they want. Dust yourself off and get back on your feet, you don't even have to talk to them.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Infinite Pew
#15 - 2014-02-06 18:57:49 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
A certain wet dream of mine is to see all of the NPC empires "split up" so that you MUST go through low-sec if you want to ship goods from, say, Jita to Amarr. To compensate, the number of connections between high-sec and low-sec will be doubled... as will the number of connections within low-sec itself (to limit the number of "chokepoints" that can be camped).

While this might certainly strangle "mini-trade hubs" it might also encourage people to "locally grow" their ships and equipment... effectively giving a need for people to have industrialist connections rather than just grabbing their cumbersome freighters (which have terrible AU/gal I might add) and going to "Super Jita" to buy goods of... questionable freshness.

How did you Veterans start?
Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#16 - 2014-02-06 20:34:50 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
A certain wet dream of mine is to see all of the NPC empires "split up" so that you MUST go through low-sec if you want to ship goods from, say, Jita to Amarr. To compensate, the number of connections between high-sec and low-sec will be doubled... as will the number of connections within low-sec itself (to limit the number of "chokepoints" that can be camped).

While this might certainly strangle "mini-trade hubs" it might also encourage people to "locally grow" their ships and equipment... effectively giving a need for people to have industrialist commections rather than just grabbing their cumbersome freighter (which has terrible AU/gal I might add) and going to "Super Jita" to buy goods of... questionable freshness.


I like this idea.

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Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-02-06 20:40:30 UTC
Evilishah wrote:
So years ago, I vaguely remember CCP all but saying that they wanted to provide meaning to low sec.

I'm relatively recently returning, has it been changed aside from a little bit more isk farming in the form of clone tags?

Has there been talk about adding features to make low sec more meaningful outside of FW?


Moon mining?

Pirating and pirate hunting?

Jump bridge networks between null sec systems?

I'm sure there are other things low sec is used for.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#18 - 2014-02-06 21:18:19 UTC
Jump freighters and bridges killed lowsec.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
PotatoOverdose
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
#19 - 2014-02-06 22:04:00 UTC
Lowsec seems fairly alive and well to me...black rise regularly tops out the regional kill charts.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#20 - 2014-02-06 22:30:29 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Jump freighters and bridges killed lowsec.



This.

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