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doesnt Eve make any really big fun changes?

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#61 - 2014-02-06 02:21:05 UTC
Because EVE is a game of content creation, not content consumption.
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#62 - 2014-02-06 02:48:27 UTC
Billy McCandless wrote:
Anabella Rella wrote:

Nice dismissive and condescending attitude there.


yore a reel definishun ov der werd "hippo crate"



And you're a troll with a stupid affectation.

Adults are trying to speak here so back under the bridge with you.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
Billy McCandless
Zacharia Explorations Group
#63 - 2014-02-06 03:07:49 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:
Billy McCandless wrote:
Anabella Rella wrote:

Nice dismissive and condescending attitude there.


yore a reel definishun ov der werd "hippo crate"



And you're a troll with a stupid affectation.

Adults are trying to speak here so back under the bridge with you.


Case in poynt

plees eckyuse me YORE MAJESTY

WE ARE UNWORTHY

"Thread locked for being deemed a total loss." - ISD Ezwal
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#64 - 2014-02-06 03:11:33 UTC
Still, I really wish CCP would spend more time fixing the broken crap that's already in game instead of constantly trying to divert our attention away from it all by adding more broken crap every other month.

CCP modus operandi:

1) Introduce new, buggy, broken stuff.

2) Quality test and refine it until it works right and majority of subscribers are happy. Shut up plebs, CCP Falcon has spoken!

3) Move on to the next project.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#65 - 2014-02-06 03:14:44 UTC
Billy McCandless wrote:
Anabella Rella wrote:
Billy McCandless wrote:
Anabella Rella wrote:

Nice dismissive and condescending attitude there.


yore a reel definishun ov der werd "hippo crate"



And you're a troll with a stupid affectation.

Adults are trying to speak here so back under the bridge with you.


Case in poynt

plees eckyuse me YORE MAJESTY

WE ARE UNWORTHY


I have declared it 'Be nice day'.

Everyone to your room until you can think of something nice to type. And Billy, you will henceforth refer to none but me as YORE MAJESTY. Shame on you.

Mr Epeen Cool
Billy McCandless
Zacharia Explorations Group
#66 - 2014-02-06 03:16:47 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:


I have declared it 'Be nice day'.

Everyone to your room until you can think of something nice to type. And Billy, you will henceforth refer to none but me as YORE MAJESTY. Shame on you.

Mr Epeen Cool



yes YORE MAJESTY im sorrey YORE MAJESTY

ill bee in mi room if yoo need me

**looks appropiately chastised**

"Thread locked for being deemed a total loss." - ISD Ezwal
TedStriker
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2014-02-06 03:33:57 UTC  |  Edited by: TedStriker
Captain DrunkBucket wrote:
When Eve does any changes, its always adding few New items, altering ships or doing something minor With overview ect ect. Its never any really big changes, somnething that would shake the univers up.


So to make it short; Why doesnt Eve make any really big fun changes?


Well, CCP decided not to. After Apocrypha Torfi stated clearly that it would be the last time they would do something like it. And, as of today, he was right.

The explanation is that alot of old stuff got broken (code) after Apocrypha and months after it they still had to fix alot of bugs. So, the new "scrum" model was introduced and they decided to only realease in small steps.

This is indeed a problem for "marketing" and advertising. Also, large projects like

- ring mining
- pos changes
- sov changes
- incarna (well, other reasons for that, too, but the first sloppy iteration was also the result of scrum cycles, way too short, so only a room could be made in time)
- new space
- PI iterations (what we got was not what was planned first, there was just not enough time to make it more civ-like)
- and more

got pushed back or scaled down alot over time.

I don't think this will change anytime soon, if at all. Big projects are now done outside of EvE. EvE is, after all, feature complete. As long as CCP doesn't change that "motto", no big expansions will come anymore, it will be iterations and a few assets.
Oxide Ammar
#68 - 2014-02-06 10:42:18 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Because EVE is a game of content creation, not content consumption.


Yea but the tools they gave to us are little bit outdated, we need more tools so we can create more contents...and no mobile structures are barely considered of what I mean.

Lady Areola Fappington:  Solo PVP isn't dead!  You just need to make sure you have your booster, remote rep, cyno, and emergency Falcon alts logged in and ready before you do any solo PVPing.
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#69 - 2014-02-06 10:45:28 UTC
Captain DrunkBucket wrote:
When Eve does any changes, its always adding few New items, altering ships or doing something minor With overview ect ect. Its never any really big changes, somnething that would shake the univers up.


So to make it short; Why doesnt Eve make any really big fun changes?


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Dior Rellik
NERFSQUAD
#70 - 2014-02-06 11:11:57 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
The ship rebalances have been the biggest changes to EVE in a long time. The cruiser teircide provided a huge amount of content.



Nerfing everything so its basically acts the same with different visuals is not the same as actually adding more fun content is it ?
Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
#71 - 2014-02-06 11:59:01 UTC
Dior Rellik wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
The ship rebalances have been the biggest changes to EVE in a long time. The cruiser teircide provided a huge amount of content.



Nerfing everything so its basically acts the same with different visuals is not the same as actually adding more fun content is it ?


You think all the cruisers are the same now? WTF?!?
Esha Ditrix
#72 - 2014-02-06 12:16:53 UTC
Dior Rellik wrote:
Nerfing everything so its basically acts the same with different visuals is not the same as actually adding more fun content is it ?

stop drinking the kool-aid, please...

Its not an exploit, if the game lets you do it...
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#73 - 2014-02-06 13:33:24 UTC
Captain DrunkBucket wrote:
When Eve does any changes, its always adding few New items, altering ships or doing something minor With overview ect ect. Its never any really big changes, somnething that would shake the univers up.


So to make it short; Why doesnt Eve make any really big fun changes?



What big changes do you have in mind?

Have you experienced everything the game has to offer? Been to every system?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#74 - 2014-02-06 13:34:32 UTC
Dior Rellik wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
The ship rebalances have been the biggest changes to EVE in a long time. The cruiser teircide provided a huge amount of content.



Nerfing everything so its basically acts the same with different visuals is not the same as actually adding more fun content is it ?


Which cruisers got nerfed?

But yeah sorry that you now have about 3 times as many viable ship choices. I suppose adding all that extra variety is a pretty huge nerf.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#75 - 2014-02-06 13:41:31 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
The ship rebalances have been the biggest changes to EVE in a long time. The cruiser teircide provided a huge amount of content.


Baltec speaks the truth...even though I am not currently experiencing it Ugh
Reid Lutman
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#76 - 2014-02-06 14:23:42 UTC
I agree with the op.

EVE is stagnant. EVE is not evolving.

As far as I'm aware Occulus rift won't be incorporated into eve. And Dust514, what difference does that make?

It's making it very hard for me to subscribe to this game because there doesn't seem like any significant or interesting changes are coming any time soon.
Billy McCandless
Zacharia Explorations Group
#77 - 2014-02-06 15:08:40 UTC
Reid Lutman wrote:
I agree with the op.

EVE is stagnant. EVE is not evolving.

As far as I'm aware Occulus rift won't be incorporated into eve. And Dust514, what difference does that make?

It's making it very hard for me to subscribe to this game because there doesn't seem like any significant or interesting changes are coming any time soon.


bi bi

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Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#78 - 2014-02-06 15:13:50 UTC
Captain DrunkBucket wrote:


"Lets hold hands and tell him together.

[i]Buddy, you are in the wrong game. Don't worry, WoW will welcome you back"

&

"So you want a new game every year? I am confused now"



Seriously??? Im actually trying to be somewhat serious and create a debate about the lack of changes.


You miss who the forums are homes to. *Looks around* Trolls man the trolls are everywhere, they lurk in the darkness and strike when a serious post is made, their only weakness is to make a troll post on the forums.....this makes them unhappy.

Oi over here we have the rarest breed on the internet, a troll. Im going to poke it with a stick.

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
Captain DrunkBucket
Lubrication Industries
#79 - 2014-02-06 15:27:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Captain DrunkBucket
Malcanis wrote:
Captain DrunkBucket wrote:
When Eve does any changes, its always adding few New items, altering ships or doing something minor With overview ect ect. Its never any really big changes, somnething that would shake the univers up.


So to make it short; Why doesnt Eve make any really big fun changes?



What big changes do you have in mind?

Have you experienced everything the game has to offer? Been to every system?



Well, i have a post in ideas & features, some serious ideas, tho some not so serious, but it gives a general idea in which direction im thinking.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=318742

Im not saying my ideas are the ones to do, but more a Reference on the size of events/changes....



"Have you experienced everything the game has to offer? Been to every system"

Well, i got 6 accounts, 18 toons, havent been in every singel system, but ive visited almost all regions, (lack a few regions in North tho.... some aint accessable) been thru many wormholes....
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#80 - 2014-02-06 16:18:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Reid Lutman wrote:
I agree with the op.

EVE is stagnant. EVE is not evolving.

As far as I'm aware Occulus rift won't be incorporated into eve. And Dust514, what difference does that make?

+1

Wormholes and Factional Warfare were good examples of solid content releases. Player built stargates sound interesting, but when exactly... soon(tm)?

In contrast, POS's are still a mess, SOV warfare needs a reboot (IMHO, to get smaller alliances down there and engaged), wars need a refresh (so people can't duck them), there's not even alliance bookmarks and CCP are blowing their wad on DUST and Oculus?

Oh, and as an added bonus they keep f#$cking with hisec and nerfing content-creation from pirates and naer-do-wells I *do* like in pursuit of moar WoW-reject subs...

Meh. Is this what it means to become a bitter vet?

Would you like to know more?