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doesnt Eve make any really big fun changes?

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Roel Yento
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2014-02-05 18:09:22 UTC
Panda's have been done already. WoW and Stardrive have them. If anything space ducks would be cool though Howard the Duck has been there.

P.S. to op, there have been tons of gradual changes over the years. Also if you want to find empty systems, plenty of empty ones in null you could visit. The only thing new systems may do is add new lore or give avenues to new tech of modules and ships. Either way the big power blocks will get there and claim them first. Maybe they have a way to add new sov mechanics to these clusters though so it could be interesting.
Ambassador Crane
Hellhound Productions
#42 - 2014-02-05 18:10:26 UTC
Captain DrunkBucket wrote:
"And they do make big changes. See Wormholes..."

-> Cant see any really big changes.... and wormhole aint that impressiv.


- when i suddenly realized this guy and this thread are nothing but a troll
flakeys
Doomheim
#43 - 2014-02-05 18:12:40 UTC
Captain DrunkBucket wrote:
When Eve does any changes, its always adding few New items, altering ships or doing something minor With overview ect ect. Its never any really big changes, somnething that would shake the univers up.


So to make it short; Why doesnt Eve make any really big fun changes?



And there's a good reason it is the way it is Lol

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Desivo Delta Visseroff
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2014-02-05 18:14:36 UTC
Actually, The one BIG change, I would like to see implemented instead of a full expansion, would be to have CCP change the game's response time from a 1 second tic to a .5 second tic. Both outside of TiDi and within it.

I think that would change everything.

I was hunting for sick loot, but all I could get my hands on were 50 corpses[:|]..............[:=d]

Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#45 - 2014-02-05 18:14:52 UTC
Because CCP is scared witless of the angry forum warriors, bittervets, statue shooters, zoomed out overview users and trolls who ask if Eve has sound. These folks are ultra resistant to change and complain mightily about CCP actually adding anything that might change the game from its current spreadsheets in space form.

Too bad these people don't realize that CCP is in the business to make money and that happens by expanding the game beyond its current rather niche user base. It's entirely possible to innovate and add real new content to the game without changing the fundamental nature of the game.

There are a lot of smart, hard-working people at CCP and it would be nice if they were allowed to show off some of their ideas in the form of fresh content while others continued to work on longstanding issues. Bug fixes and iteration are good and necessary but, let's also have some expansions that really do expand the game.

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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2014-02-05 18:19:57 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Captain DrunkBucket wrote:



U might have a point, but in the beginning, the game was fun and exiting... but with lack of changes, u have the right to ask questions, Say u rent a car for 5 years, u have the same car. Ur friend also rent, but get a new car every year. U both pay for it.... but does it feel right?


U just saved a lot of seconds. U should be proud of ur self.

Mr Epeen Cool

"u've" been waiting for that, haven't "u"?

That's one of my pet peeves too.

OP, people around here (myself included) value stability over dev created content. New toys to play with are great; redesigning the game around them every few years is not.

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Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#47 - 2014-02-05 18:22:46 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:
Because CCP is scared witless of the angry forum warriors, bittervets, statue shooters, zoomed out overview users and trolls who ask if Eve has sound. These folks are ultra resistant to change and complain mightily about CCP actually adding anything that might change the game from its current spreadsheets in space form.

Too bad these people don't realize that CCP is in the business to make money and that happens by expanding the game beyond its current rather niche user base. It's entirely possible to innovate and add real new content to the game without changing the fundamental nature of the game.

There are a lot of smart, hard-working people at CCP and it would be nice if they were allowed to show off some of their ideas in the form of fresh content while others continued to work on longstanding issues. Bug fixes and iteration are good and necessary but, let's also have some expansions that really do expand the game.


I was waiting for this post, because it contains all the battlecrys of the people who play EVE but don't like EVE (but keep playing and paying for it because it has "potential").

Instead of all that BS, my you might try to understand that some people both like EVE as currently presented and prefer gradual evolution to the over hurried (read sloppy) "expanding" you wish for? Any astute observer of CCP would realize that CCP does gradual evolution well (even when people like me sometimes disagree with its consequences).

What CCP has done less well is "Jesus Freatures" and the only reason EVE is still here is because they wised up and stopped doing that crap.
Billy McCandless
Zacharia Explorations Group
#48 - 2014-02-05 18:43:28 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:
Because CCP is scared witless of the angry forum warriors, bittervets, statue shooters, zoomed out overview users and trolls who ask if Eve has sound. These folks are ultra resistant to change and complain mightily about CCP actually adding anything that might change the game from its current spreadsheets in space form.

Too bad these people don't realize that CCP is in the business to make money and that happens by expanding the game beyond its current rather niche user base. It's entirely possible to innovate and add real new content to the game without changing the fundamental nature of the game.

There are a lot of smart, hard-working people at CCP and it would be nice if they were allowed to show off some of their ideas in the form of fresh content while others continued to work on longstanding issues. Bug fixes and iteration are good and necessary but, let's also have some expansions that really do expand the game.


did yoo jus sey dat SeeSeePee doesunt wan to eckspand dere playre bace becos they wood loos teh smallr playres if dey did?

so.. bye yore logick, les playres maxes moar monie than moar playres

an SeeSeePee has enslaevd it creeatif stav

"Thread locked for being deemed a total loss." - ISD Ezwal

Desivo Delta Visseroff
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2014-02-05 18:47:18 UTC
Billy McCandless wrote:


did yoo jus sey dat SeeSeePee doesunt wan to eckspand dere playre bace becos they wood loos teh smallr playres if dey did?

so.. bye yore logick, les playres maxes moar monie than moar playres

an SeeSeePee has enslaevd it creeatif stav




I am amazed I was able to read the on the first go.

Also....LOL.

I was hunting for sick loot, but all I could get my hands on were 50 corpses[:|]..............[:=d]

Sand Shardani
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#50 - 2014-02-05 18:48:19 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Anabella Rella wrote:
Because CCP is scared witless of the angry forum warriors, bittervets, statue shooters, zoomed out overview users and trolls who ask if Eve has sound. These folks are ultra resistant to change and complain mightily about CCP actually adding anything that might change the game from its current spreadsheets in space form.

Too bad these people don't realize that CCP is in the business to make money and that happens by expanding the game beyond its current rather niche user base. It's entirely possible to innovate and add real new content to the game without changing the fundamental nature of the game.

There are a lot of smart, hard-working people at CCP and it would be nice if they were allowed to show off some of their ideas in the form of fresh content while others continued to work on longstanding issues. Bug fixes and iteration are good and necessary but, let's also have some expansions that really do expand the game.


I was waiting for this post, because it contains all the battlecrys of the people who play EVE but don't like EVE (but keep playing and paying for it because it has "potential").

Instead of all that BS, my you might try to understand that some people both like EVE as currently presented and prefer gradual evolution to the over hurried (read sloppy) "expanding" you wish for? Any astute observer of CCP would realize that CCP does gradual evolution well (even when people like me sometimes disagree with its consequences).

What CCP has done less well is "Jesus Freatures" and the only reason EVE is still here is because they wised up and stopped doing that crap.


Jenn aSide I like you.

It took CCP 10 Years to get to this stage of the game. EVE is a slow burn. Enjoy the ride or leave.
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#51 - 2014-02-05 20:41:34 UTC
Captain DrunkBucket wrote:
When Eve does any changes, its always adding few New items, altering ships or doing something minor With overview ect ect. Its never any really big changes, somnething that would shake the univers up.


So to make it short; Why doesnt Eve make any really big fun changes?


BOOT.INI was pretty fun.
thisisnotright
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2014-02-05 20:54:22 UTC
I think this is a great idea what do you? All empires have factions and empire space has pirates such as sasha, angels and the likes also players corporations. All these are factions^^ (mentiond above)The idea is this that when players take power in consalletions with player owned structers there must be rebels and this is the idea that the rebels can chenge the sovreignity so the players must do it more times. decided I could post here in stead of creating new thread in forum This idea would be big chnage dont you think?
Snagletooth Johnson
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2014-02-05 21:37:54 UTC
Incarna Expansion is best expansion...EEV-VEER!

So don't say they never done anything huge or fun!
Vyl Vit
#54 - 2014-02-06 00:31:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Vyl Vit
Captain DrunkBucket wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Eve online only provides you with tools. Its up to you to use them to make content.







As a paying member of Eve, we should have much more impact on what will be the New changes, not them making rules and tools for us make Our own fun. We pay for Eve giving us the fun we expect to get for our Investment.

So...as a paying member of the amusement park your roller coaster ride ticket entitles you to insist the roller coaster designer has to adopt your ideas....interesting....I guess the candied apple vendor is under the same contractual obligations...inferred or implied when YOU'RE the one spending the money....This adds a new dimension to "self esteem."

Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.

DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#55 - 2014-02-06 00:42:11 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Anabella Rella wrote:
Because CCP is scared witless of the angry forum warriors, bittervets, statue shooters, zoomed out overview users and trolls who ask if Eve has sound. These folks are ultra resistant to change and complain mightily about CCP actually adding anything that might change the game from its current spreadsheets in space form.

Too bad these people don't realize that CCP is in the business to make money and that happens by expanding the game beyond its current rather niche user base. It's entirely possible to innovate and add real new content to the game without changing the fundamental nature of the game.

There are a lot of smart, hard-working people at CCP and it would be nice if they were allowed to show off some of their ideas in the form of fresh content while others continued to work on longstanding issues. Bug fixes and iteration are good and necessary but, let's also have some expansions that really do expand the game.


I was waiting for this post, because it contains all the battlecrys of the people who play EVE but don't like EVE (but keep playing and paying for it because it has "potential").

Instead of all that BS, my you might try to understand that some people both like EVE as currently presented and prefer gradual evolution to the over hurried (read sloppy) "expanding" you wish for? Any astute observer of CCP would realize that CCP does gradual evolution well (even when people like me sometimes disagree with its consequences).

What CCP has done less well is "Jesus Freatures" and the only reason EVE is still here is because they wised up and stopped doing that crap.



Yup, We used to have a 'Jesus feature' in ever expansion. Castor brought battleships and conquerable stations in null (not really big) Exodus brought us alliances, pos'. Coldwar brought us dread and titans, RMR we saw carriers and moms. I could go on, sometimes the features were completed, but needed tweeking. Some now are out dated and need to be modified or replaced (see pos') some were half assed or not completed with a promise of we will add more later, see pi, FW (when it came out) incarnia, and a ton of others things. One expansion was done imo nerly flawlessly, and that was apocarypto (sp?) they shifted to a more gradual approach which feels more like patches then expansions. But oddly, I have a feeling that stuff we look at now, like the ESS, will make a lot of sense in a few years and we will get a so THATS why they did that. I have high expectations that we will see a huge expansion in a few years, and they are laying the road map to it. But we will see, I thought Ambulation would be great, but they messed it up.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#56 - 2014-02-06 00:45:02 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
apocarypto (sp?)

Apocrypha.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)

Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#57 - 2014-02-06 01:55:19 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:


I was waiting for this post, because it contains all the battlecrys of the people who play EVE but don't like EVE (but keep playing and paying for it because it has "potential").

Instead of all that BS, my you might try to understand that some people both like EVE as currently presented and prefer gradual evolution to the over hurried (read sloppy) "expanding" you wish for? Any astute observer of CCP would realize that CCP does gradual evolution well (even when people like me sometimes disagree with its consequences).

What CCP has done less well is "Jesus Freatures" and the only reason EVE is still here is because they wised up and stopped doing that crap.



Nice dismissive and condescending attitude there. You might take your own advice and understand that not everyone plays and/or expects the same things from the game as you. Some of us don't fear change. Sandbox, remember?

By the way, good job in completely missing the main point of my post; that CCP is capable of delivering not only fresh content as well as bug fixes and iteration on older features. Just because they screwed up with Incarna doesn't invalidate successful "Jesus feature" expansions that really added something to the game. Remember Red Moon Rising, Revelations, Trinity, Empyrean Age and Apocrypha?

CCP is a business. Businesses exist to make money for their investors. The primary way to do that for CCP is by increasing their subscriber base. Remaining static and refusing to add innovative new content will not attract new subscribers nor will it encourage bored vets to remain subscribed.


P.S. If I disliked the game (as you quite wrongly assert knowing nothing about me) I'd simply unsubscribe. No one's put a weapon to my head forcing me to pay. I've been playing since 2007 but, I'm not married to this game. If/when Eve fails to provide me a pleasurable experience trust me, I'll be out the door.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.

Billy McCandless
Zacharia Explorations Group
#58 - 2014-02-06 01:58:34 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:

Nice dismissive and condescending attitude there.


yore a reel definishun ov der werd "hippo crate"

"Thread locked for being deemed a total loss." - ISD Ezwal

Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
New Eden Tech Support
#59 - 2014-02-06 02:08:03 UTC
Captain DrunkBucket wrote:
"you have to make them yourself "

->Which often leads to Concord getting u. Or when posting in Ideas and features, ignored until u give up.


"And they do make big changes. See Wormholes..."

-> Cant see any really big changes.... and wormhole aint that impressiv.


"Just wait. You'll see."

->ive been waiting along time, others have been waiting much longer than me and they have lost their faith.


"Because Eve players tend to shoot innocent statues in Jita when CCP announces big new features"

-> Of course People will b!tch, one of the fun features of humans, Some will always complain, they dont like changes.




Organize a group of capsuleers and make your mark on the galaxy ... there are plenty of ways to make an impact without getting CONCORDed.

Wormholes are a huge deal o.0 Not sure what you mean by not that impressive. Their utility, isolation, unique mechanics lack of Local make a larger difference in gameplay than you think.

Like your character's development ... look at the overall long term trajectory of the game - player made stargates (!!) - before you cry to Bob or CCP about stagnation. What exactly do you want changed??

Activism is often times more effective than looting frozen bodies from space. You can buy a new clone but the echoes of Burn Jita will resonate through New Eden for a whole lot longer... inside and outside of Tranquility.

People see what they want to see - change your outlook and take a deep breath. Eve is pretty rad and still a work in progress - what the final product will be remains to be determined by CCP and the playerbase.
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
New Eden Tech Support
#60 - 2014-02-06 02:16:26 UTC
Desivo Delta Visseroff wrote:
Actually, The one BIG change, I would like to see implemented instead of a full expansion, would be to have CCP change the game's response time from a 1 second tic to a .5 second tic. Both outside of TiDi and within it.

I think that would change everything.


Why have they not done that yet?? Seems legit ...