Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This would be fun, there are aspects to the mission system that could be expanded upon, but something that could lead you to do some real exploration maybe solve a puzzle and get something good at the end of it would be an excellent addition. There should be more to Relic sites even now even if it is just a random document that has no value now but maybe using a lab in some way it could be used to uncover clues later.

I also like the idea of using Dust mercs to secure a site for study or gather an item, when the ability to fly staging ships in Eve arrives that would be something doable but I think that also depends if they add an NPC feature to Dust.

So true exploration which leads you to unknown space and solving mysteries of the Terrans would be a much needed addition and it wouldn't harm if it extended to the Sleepers, Talocan, Takmahl, Yan Jung and Jovians as well, they all had technology on a similar or more advanced level to the Terrans.

There is a lot of space out there and a lot of planes so there should be something out there for us to find, like stargates and lost ships and technologies, I think we just need the tools to exploit them better. It would be interesting if we could salvage the ships from relic sites not just the content so they can be studied, maybe even find ways of acquiring sleeper technology for more than just T3 ships. I realize all this come with the larger consequences in New Eden but it would add content to those of us who wish we could be more the explorer than than the warrior.

I would like something different to the norm so an active ship as an entity could be interesting especially if the drone boat has a higher bandwidht like a carrier, say enough for 8 drones. Flying your shields for active defence? you can only launch 3 gun drones or repair drones for logi on you friend etc...

Most functions could be placed into drones too, ecm that is more focused with drones launched, or stronger with them docked, propulsion mods in the form of the web drones grabbing your ship and adding their mwd speed (you can do one or the other). Want a quick speed boost? Launch all your heaviest drones and get acceleration like a sabot ammunition round.

I think it could also be fun to have an entirely different take on sentience in drone hives. Would be creepy to have drone loaded clones for human/drone interaction too.

That is based on the assumption that Terra hasn't stagnated or regressed in that time. In that many thousand years they could have obliterated themselves and redeveloped space travel by reverse engineering ancient tech they don't even understand anymore. In this case that ancient tech would provide juicy targets for exploration fleets to find...

Also true, we do not know why they even created the gate, it could have be desperation for resources maybe the terrans had rival factions in the milky way that the lore did not touch. maybe the sleepers came through the gate alone with terrans unnoticed.

And even if time flowed at the same rate it could have been another natural event (Supernova, blackhole, asteroid, climate change... pick one) that may have set back the terrans. I would prefer that time ran at a different rate for New Eden.

Actually how cool would that be for the gate to open and dozens of ships flood through some severely damaged some destroyed drifting through broadcasting a panic'd warning in a dead language

Ok based on what we have discussed so far I think I have an idea of how the events could go.

From the Terran perspective the Eve Gate collapses and they begin studying what went wrong and find a way to reopen the Eve Gate before the colonies on the other side perish. Given their advanced technology they figure out what goes wrong and manage to partially stabilize and reopen the Eve Gate and send a probe through to New Eden and begin scanning for colony signals but they find none. There is some strange interference on the the telemetry being sent back to the Milky way after further study they discover that 20,000+ years have passed on the other side. Unable to make adjustments to the Eve Gate to compensate for the temporal distortion the various factions in the Milky way decide to send a mission to New Eden with various representatives to re-establish contact with the descendants of the colonies. There are factions on the Terran side that rely on the resources from New Eden and will do anything to possess them.

From the New Eden perspective, given that the Sisters of Eve monitor the Eve Gate constantly the spacial distortions that surround the Eve Gate begin to dissipate and small ship or probe I detected in close proximity to the Eve Gate. Having researched the lost technologies of New Eden the SOE are able to decipher the communications from the probe and quickly realise it is of Terran origin. SOE dispatch ships to the Eve Gate, but as space is still unstable they have to travel there under warp (not sure of time frame to arrive). SOE informs CONCORD and the Amarr Empire of this event they both dispatch fleets to New Eden system. A day or so after the SOE fleet arrives at the Eve Gate a ship jumps through it is roughly the size of a titan and several smaller ships launch from it and they immediately jump to different locations in New Eden. One ship appears in Amarr, Luminaire and other systems where major colonies had historically existed the resident navys surround these ships but they are unable to even lock them, so it turns into a one sided stand off. Back at the Eve Gate the SOE manage to successfully contact the Terran mother ship and they discuss the past 20,000 years and the fates of many of the colonies.

Eventually there is a meeting between representatives of the 4 main empires and the Terran factions probably in Yulai where they discuss the future of New Eden. Many of the mega corporations from the Milky way still want to exploit the resources of New Eden but they also want to restrict access back to the Milky way, saying that they will allow SOE to continue their studies and CONCORD to maintain security around the gate. However, no one else will be aloud to come near the gate and they will shoot down anyone who tries. They also want to share technology with the peoples of New Eden such as improved sensors, mining equipment and the means to control Wormholes, things that would make resource gathering easier. The Terrans also want to establish embassy stations in the 4 empires where they can conduct business and re-establish connections with the people of New Eden.

So with the improved technology Pod Pilots go off find more clues to the original goals of the Terrans and locate their lost technology through exploration.

Then the twist at some point one of the Terran factions could show its hand because, the plan they had established isn't progressing aand they are losing too much money so they try and take space from someone and we encounter a new drone based automated weapon system (based on Corraidhin Farsaidh idea). However out of this there could also be Terran factions that want to help the people of New Eden, so maybe improvements to shield and armour technology rather than weapons which should come from exploration. It also means that Jovian space could be opened up to players as they try and gather technology.

Well this is a scenario that could work from in a non all out invasion way and also builds into it the ability to have new technologies and new content developed around the arrival of the Terrans. But this is a more likely way to look at it if there were some temporal effect in operation as from the Terran perspective New Eden would have been filled with the families, friends and co workers of many of the Milky way factions as well as their rivals too, much like New Eden is currently so I suspect it would be a friendly first meeting, it would be some time before the greed of the corporations would show its self, but the question would then be how would everyone align, which will make for a very interesting future for New Eden.

Part of me likes the idea of time running the same on both sides, but there are a lot of downsides to it as well as many plus points. Firstly assuming that the civilization kept progressing on the Milky way side then they would probably be almost god like with technology from a New Eden prospective, maybe the Amarr will like that.

However, wars, social collapse, resources running out on the Milky way side could be an equalizing factor as I think someone else suggested that they too could have lost the use of their own technology because of an unknown event. That way maybe they look to the population of New Eden for help and maybe factions that a desperate for resources take control of the Eve Gate and start to raid Sansha style systems but taking all the resources, with massive well defended industrial ships and heavily armed mining drones. If they are not destroyed the system might never fully recover.

For all we know the Milky way is run by a super-sized version of the Caldari state, that could have many consequences in its self where they are more likely to be hostile and exploit the population of New Eden in the name of profit. Pod pilots rise up and overthrow the evil Terran overlords .

Do like the idea of hiring drones to do my dirty work .

Given that Pod Pilot cloning being a recent technology to those of us in New Eden will probably not see the effects for generations when social changers might emerge where it is the normal way to reproduce breading out defects and mutations that make us a diverse species in the first place, which is what I imagine happened to the Jovians. On the Terran side what if that had happened on a larger scale, maybe genetically enhanced humans become a second class citizen because of the disease.

I can see 2 major factions emerging on the Milky way side, where you might still have pure humans, but they might be very militant and unsympathetic to those who went down the genetic engineering route. This faction is a powerful authority and control the advanced technologies, maybe even a means to reverse the effects of the disease.

The other faction could be those suffering from the disease, they might have turned to cybernetics to transfer their conciousness to machines to preserve themselves. So this faction of the Terrans that uses technology to live could be looking to find a way to become human again they have to find fresh DNA to recover what they lost. The pure humans in the Milky way refuse to help which could fuel a war on that side, maybe those suffering from the disease in a last attempt to save themselves open the Eve Gate, in the hope to escape the war or find salvation.

So this could create some interesting situation on the New Eden side, where you could have an obvious split based on desperation, where you have infected Terrans raiding planets looking for DNA samples and on the other side could have the ones who are looking for a peaceful solution trading advanced technology for genetic information.

Not sure I would want to see this outcome, but it is an interesting scenario to play with, has a lot of potential to it as a storyline also allows for less advanced technology to be involved with agressing forces. Would be interested in what if the technologically advanced faction were to find New Eden, how would our factions side?

I see the drone ships as a needle like central armoured hull with engine nacelles places evenly around the rear (number dependant on size of hull)

The foreard areas would be studded with locking points and power points. Drone modules would attach on these points depending on loadout so each flying vessel would look different. Example of how I see this could work:

Frigate class combat hull:

Central hull with low cap and cpu, armour resists comparable to other frigates. 3 low slots that can hold small drones. These are either fixed drones (armour repair drone with average repair hp per cycle) or mobile drones ( armour rep drone that can rep local or launch and remote rep, both at lower rate than the fixed drone.

3 high slots with the same principle, docked gun/missile drones get dmg buffs but undocked they can engage at distance/ drone assist others.

Dessie hull also uses small drones but with more drone slots, cruisers and BCs use medium, BS use large drones and so on.

Hull cap is low because the drone modules themselves have cap. This should be balenced to not allow gross use of active low/medium fixed mods.

Drone prop mods would be achieved by the attached propulsion drones dragging the hull along as boosters whilst their cap holds out, but also launching drones gives an additional velocity boost like a sabot round, along with an agility increase due to less hull mass.

When docked all shield/armour/hull dmg is spread evely across the central hull and drones. Launched drones can be targeted and destroyed individually. Replacement drones are carried in a drone bay if the hull has one.

The sight of these deadly needles crawling with mechanized horrors could be very nice indeed...

I really like this but one question, would they not be past projectile based weapons like slugs and missiles?, What about a variation of the Amarr energy base weapons only more intense.