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Highsec wardeccers! You can dec GSF and Red AND Blue for 50M/week!

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#101 - 2014-02-04 16:07:30 UTC
Danalee wrote:
It's a bit funny when CSM think they are smart to try and circumvent game mechanics and have it blow up in their face Blink
Usman Bello wrote:
Indeed but a CSM shouldn't try to circumvent game mechanics either. It is unworthy of the office he holds and only damages it unnecessarily.
Nothing is being circumvented. This is the correct use of the alliance mechanics. The fact that Gevlon didn't think about it doesn't mean it's automatically wrong.

Danalee wrote:
50m was EXACTLY the amount it cost to wardec the corp. Once the corp joined goons THE WAR TRANSFERRED OVER TO THE GOONS and not a single extra isk was paid for it.
Usman Bello wrote:
Worked just fine. When the ebil Gwens tried to use witchcraft to hide the pretty POCO away in fear of the Usman, he got the whole GSF. Cool
For 1 week. Not /Week. To continue the war it will be the usual half bil.

Danalee wrote:
'obscure' high sec war dec feature : High sec wardec mechanics are hardly obscure and I'm not CSM. What makes me so special is that I'm not joining your little pitchfork-wielding bandwagon party attacking someone who swims against the stream.
The obscure part isn't the actual wardec transference. The obscure part is that when the corp transferred to the other alliance, a notification stating "surrender" was sent. I don't think I've seen that written anywhere, and it certainly makes no sense, since there's been no surrender of any kind. So yes, it's obscure.

And you are still insulting mynnna over understanding of mechanics. By your reasoning that must mean you know ALL mechanics, since you are not allowed to call out someone on any mechanics unless you're an absolute expert, right?

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Johan March
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#102 - 2014-02-04 16:16:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Johan March
Weaselior wrote:
apparently this was the big announcement: http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/2014/02/goons-and-pets-on-killboard.html

i would say more but i'm gasping for air laughing


I'm not sure what's funnier, the post or the comments. Still, thank you Gevlon. I haven't laughed so hard in days.

Imagine if Gevlon had access to our PAP statistics. The sheer beauty of the graphs and charts he would create would be breathtaking.
mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#103 - 2014-02-04 16:22:29 UTC
Danalee wrote:

It's a bit funny when CSM think they are smart to try and circumvent game mechanics and have it blow up in their face Blink


Didn't actually see this first time around. Nothing was circumvented, feel free to petition it if you think otherwise. P

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#104 - 2014-02-04 16:29:51 UTC
Johan March wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
apparently this was the big announcement: http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/2014/02/goons-and-pets-on-killboard.html

i would say more but i'm gasping for air laughing


I'm not sure what's funnier, the post or the comments. Still, thank you Gevlon. I haven't laughed so hard in days.

Imagine if Gevlon had access to our PAP statistics. The sheer beauty of the graphs and charts he would create would be breathtaking.
I've just reread it with the updates he did, which makes it funnier.

Probably the best part for me though, even if this was all 100% accurate and we are the mere pets at your feet, what would change?
Would I rather be the well kept pet of a rich and powerful owner or a peasant in a world full of peasants. Not exactly a tough call.

The realism is though that no single CFC alliance could hold the space CFC hold. The coalition is required, some parts for the leadership, some for the skilled players and some just for the raw numbers (and SUAS for his epic songs). We all get to have a load of fun, and compared to other alliances CTAs are nowhere close to as strict as many other alliances. If Gevlon actually thought that his blog post was going to suddenly make us start infighting he's seriously delusional.

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#105 - 2014-02-04 16:31:57 UTC
mynnna wrote:
Danalee wrote:

It's a bit funny when CSM think they are smart to try and circumvent game mechanics and have it blow up in their face Blink


Didn't actually see this first time around. Nothing was circumvented, feel free to petition it if you think otherwise. P
Calling it now, just watch, they'll petition it, and when nothing happens they'll accuse you of using inside connections to bypass the rules. And that will be the reason they fail! Bloody cheaters!

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Danalee
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#106 - 2014-02-04 16:38:41 UTC
It's STILL a bit funny when CSM think they are smart to try and circumvent game mechanics and have it blow up in their faceBlink

And it was sooo unexpected we wardecced the corp before the poco was even placed Lol

D.

Bear

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Pete Butcher
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#107 - 2014-02-04 16:41:45 UTC
Danalee, your trolling is bad. I mean seriously - I understand the "value" of trolling for amusement, but you are really being bad at this now and not amusing at all. You are one step from posting goblin-level shite, which is the rock bottom.

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Danalee
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#108 - 2014-02-04 16:50:48 UTC
Ow pete, how you burn me...

The fact that goons have to misuse hisec wardec mechanics to save face is the big joke here, but that's waaaaaay above your level I see. Oh well, can't all be regular guys and gals playing a game... Some have to take it to where no sane person has ever gone before I gues...

In any case, I'm not trolling and it's you who is shown for the sad little troll you are. Thanks!

D.

Bear

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#109 - 2014-02-04 16:51:53 UTC
Danalee wrote:
It's STILL a bit funny when CSM think they are smart to try and circumvent game mechanics and have it blow up in their faceBlink

And it was sooo unexpected we wardecced the corp before the poco was even placed
Perhaps you'd like to explain which mechanic you are talking about, since this doesn't really make sense. Since no game mechanics were circumvented, and everything worked out as planned, I can only conclude that you've misunderstood the situation.

And congratulations, you started a 24 hour timer half an hour early. What you should have done is placed your own POCO, and not wasted a wardec on an alt corp.

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mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#110 - 2014-02-04 16:55:55 UTC
Yeah, I get he's trolling, but even I'm confused now too. POCO back in GSF. Where's the "blow up in face" part? Maybe he means how the wardecs carried over? I'm not sure I care - a couple groups too scared or poor (or both) to wardec GSF normally aren't going to kill lost goons in Empire any faster than Marmite already does. P

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Danalee
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#111 - 2014-02-04 17:01:10 UTC
Not shooting the messenger this time, allow me to reward you with a reply;

Lucas Kell wrote:
Perhaps you'd like to explain which mechanic you are talking about, since this doesn't really make sense. Since no game mechanics were circumvented, and everything worked out as planned, I can only conclude that you've misunderstood the situation.


I'm actually talking about the intended mechanic of wardecs (declaring war and fighting stuff).
You guys thought you'd be clever and have another corp drop the poco so it would be invincible, we saw it comming a mile away but figured it would be a good way to get more wardecs against you Lol
Which happened. To add insult to injury, it was made obvious by different goon posts you didn't 'get it'.

Lucas Kell wrote:

And congratulations, you started a 24 hour timer half an hour early. What you should have done is placed your own POCO, and not wasted a wardec on an alt corp.

We don't care for pocos, really... too much hassle for no big return.
We do care for goons to go pop and leave their juicy innards for us to feast on. That and all the beautiful content that's being created here on the forums and ingame.

D.

Bear

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Pete Butcher
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#112 - 2014-02-04 17:01:13 UTC
mynnna wrote:
Yeah, I get he's trolling, but even I'm confused now too. POCO back in GSF. Where's the "blow up in face" part? Maybe he means how the wardecs carried over? I'm not sure I care - a couple groups too scared or poor (or both) to wardec GSF normally aren't going to kill lost goons in Empire any faster than Marmite already does. P


And that's exactly why his trolling is bad. It should have some kind of intelligent twist, not a bunch of random words.

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Danalee
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#113 - 2014-02-04 17:16:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Danalee
Pete Butcher wrote:
mynnna wrote:
Yeah, I get he's trolling, but even I'm confused now too. POCO back in GSF. Where's the "blow up in face" part? Maybe he means how the wardecs carried over? I'm not sure I care - a couple groups too scared or poor (or both) to wardec GSF normally aren't going to kill lost goons in Empire any faster than Marmite already does. P


And that's exactly why his trolling is bad. It should have some kind of intelligent twist, not a bunch of random words.


That's actually a good point, as opposed to Pete yesman's poor attempt at relevance.
(Yes, I was talking about the wardecs carrying over)
Touché.

D.

Bear

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mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#114 - 2014-02-04 17:29:26 UTC  |  Edited by: mynnna
Danalee wrote:

I'm actually talking about the intended mechanic of wardecs (declaring war and fighting stuff).
You guys thought you'd be clever and have another corp drop the poco so it would be invincible, we saw it comming a mile away but figured it would be a good way to get more wardecs against you Lol


Realtalk: Invincibility wasn't really an objective, if it were why would I drop it in an alliance so cheap to dec? I dropped it in another corp because I felt dropping it in a neutral corp and then transferring it over would be a better route than having to cloak 200km off in a GSF blockade runner and hope I could warp in and drop fast enough. In short, I was concerned about a ninja attempt, not even necessarily from you guys as much as from random passerbys, or about having the ship blown up before I completed the drop. All the wardecs did was make it take longer to transfer back to Goonwaffe Oops

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Danalee
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#115 - 2014-02-04 17:34:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Danalee
mynnna wrote:
Danalee wrote:

I'm actually talking about the intended mechanic of wardecs (declaring war and fighting stuff).
You guys thought you'd be clever and have another corp drop the poco so it would be invincible, we saw it comming a mile away but figured it would be a good way to get more wardecs against you Lol


Realtalk: Invincibility wasn't really an objective, if it were why would I drop it in an alliance so cheap to dec? I dropped it in another corp because I felt dropping it in a neutral corp and then transferring it over would be a better route than having to cloak 200km off in a GSF blockade runner and hope I could warp in and drop fast enough. In short, I was concerned about a ninja attempt, not even necessarily from you guys as much as from random passerbys, or about having the ship blown up before I completed the drop. All the wardecs did was make it take longer to transfer back to Goonwaffe Oops


I kinda get that now. You should have used a corp without the word GOON in it, maybe we'd have left it alone than thinking it was someone ninjaing it. To make it even better you should have wardecced said corp and laugh your ass off when all those poor hisec groups put in their request to assist Lol

D.

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mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#116 - 2014-02-04 17:36:37 UTC  |  Edited by: mynnna
Didn't have another altcorp handy, and to be fair there's a certain amount of pleasure taken in going "yeah you downed a poco, I'm going to drop it with an obvious altcorp, transfer it back, and you can't do **** about it except slow me down" Blink

And indeed, neither you, nor lemmings, nor any of the other corps that decced mine so much as scratched the paint on the new poco.

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Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#117 - 2014-02-04 17:54:02 UTC
*yawn*

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Pete Butcher
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#118 - 2014-02-04 18:54:22 UTC
Danalee wrote:
Pete Butcher wrote:
mynnna wrote:
Yeah, I get he's trolling, but even I'm confused now too. POCO back in GSF. Where's the "blow up in face" part? Maybe he means how the wardecs carried over? I'm not sure I care - a couple groups too scared or poor (or both) to wardec GSF normally aren't going to kill lost goons in Empire any faster than Marmite already does. P


And that's exactly why his trolling is bad. It should have some kind of intelligent twist, not a bunch of random words.


That's actually a good point, as opposed to Pete yesman's poor attempt at relevance.
(Yes, I was talking about the wardecs carrying over)
Touché.

D.

Bear


Unfortunately you missed. I don't care for relevance, whatever you mean by tthat. And I don't know where wardecs come into this. I only enjoy goblins failure as we all do. It is quite entertaining.

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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#119 - 2014-02-05 08:34:51 UTC
If Gevlon dares to put all his wealth on the line, and he does manage to slow Goons down, is this not a major victory? We'll all tell stories for years to come about the highsec carebear who managed to put a dent in Goonswarm.

Throw everything you have at this effort Gevlon, and you can be famous as the figurative martyr who gave up all his wealth to make a difference. It sure beats having lots of isk and people thinking you are foolish.

Use your head. Make the right choice. Be the hero we all will remember.

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Danalee
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#120 - 2014-02-05 13:07:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Danalee
Erotica, with examples like your fine self, mister Goblin will surely succeed!

Who knows, maybe the Order knights could team up with Lemmings and rekindle what transpired a couple of months ago (and with more defeated goons)?;

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