Ships & Modules

This. THe hull isn't to expensive, it gets and insane amount of HP buffer, it has 13 combined mid/low slots. Very versatile. Easily 800+ DPS with 100% damage selection at sniper range and good/perfect application.

Yes, something I have pointed out least a dozen times in the various threads. Still sucks for the Stratios though, that thing needs as much dps as it can get. And the Gila, which often can't realistically fit more than 1 omni.

LOL, you carebears....

EVE has always been a game of balance, adapt or fail.

Keep these words in your mind and you will go far.

"lol you carebears" is a pretty good mantra to be honest.

They are fine... They are still fine...

You just have an active module that works a bit differently than it did before.. O.o

If you need tracking on your sentries in PVE, you might be doing it wrong. The only reasons to not use sentries on a CNR is because you're slowboating to a gate while shooting, you have terrible skills, or you're lazy. Even without room for a DLA, non-garde's will apply significant dps to large targets and kill frigates at range.



Its the drones themselves (not just sentries). This should be clear to everyone. There's plenty of evidence:
-Drone base stats are all out of whack.
-Drone base stats have been unchanged for over 5 years, probably longer, except for...
-Up until a week ago, all drones of all sizes had the same shield recharge stat. That should tell you something about how much consideration CCP has given to drone base stats.
-Minmatar drones still have damage modifiers swapped with Amarrian drones. Inexplicably. After all these years.
-Curator and Garde tracking are integer multiples of warden/bouncer tracking. A bonused or tracking-omni'd garde has roughly the tracking of a neutron blaster cannon, despite most players intending to use it for longer-range stuff. It seems there is a disconnect between how sentries are used and how CCP originally designed them.
-Say what you will about the state of drones as a whole, omnis were a freakin crutch. Despite the fact that it makes the bonus of the domi/ishtar relatively more powerful, you have to agree that any module giving 30% to both tracking and optimal is a bit ridiculous. If such a module is required for usability, then that indicates an issue with the underlying weapon system.
-Note that for a long time, omnidirectionals were completely free of stacking penalties.
-For the same reasons as above, Drone Control Range is still a thing. How it got into the game is a different discussion but what is important right now is that it currently serves a balancing purpose to drone sentry sniping. This was and to some extent still is necessary as the screwed up state of sentry stats and omnidirectionals means that Drone Control Range serves as an effective balance to what would otherwise be 700dps drone snipers hitting from 200km. The Rubicon 1.1 changes reduced the need for this balancing role slightly but have not eliminated it entirely. Drone control range needs to be abolished as part of any comprehensive drone overhaul. If you want to know why drone control range exists at all and why it applies to sentries, read here.

Let's cut the melodrama here... One module was slightly nerfed (what a couple have suggested was a buff), and THAT makes the Rattlesnake a bad ship? You guys seriously need to get over this FOTD bull$hit... It's the same ship it's always been, and you don't have as much insane DPS as you used to stacking 12 OMNI's and 26 CalNavy BCS' on it.

You don't like it, pick one of a number of other OP ships. But enough with the drama.

It's clearly much worse performance wise. This is supported by the actual numbers. If this nerf was needed or not is a topic for discussion.

This thread has come down to RS pilots saying how bad the nerf is and people trying to troll them. I'm guessing soon to be locked for this reason...

Trolls are trolls and will troll if its trollable. I just wanted to know the general consensus for rs pilots. Generally, the target of this omni nerf was supposed to be domis and ishtar pilots. Inadvertantly, the rs was smacked harder than those two hulls. So, if the changes to the omnis will stick. Then might as well talk about on how to improve the rs hull rather than dwell on things we can't do anything about. Say, remove the missile bonus and replace it with drone tracking and range bonus...to compensate with the recent changes to the omnis... i might start another discussion on F&I about this.

Prior to MJD range bonused domis the RS was actually quite a competitive droneboat for damage performance. There was no projection disadvantage, plenty of room for DDA's and enough mids for omni's + bonus augmented tank. Slot layout and bonused shield tank made it advantageous IMHO.