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The Brave Newbies?

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Trigger Zo
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-01-31 23:35:22 UTC
Hey ho!

So guess what I'm still here, nearly a week in the big black and the cliff face of learning curve is yet to send me running to the hills, I've tasted pvp, mining, business and PvE and exploration and I guess I'm starting to like it here. It may be a new game rush but I used to flit between the games I was playing but these day's I only ever feel like logging into New Eden! Does the affliction strike everyone at first!?

Anyways I'm still hesitant about jumping into a player controlled corp although today I was advised to join the Brave Newbies for some PvP action, I was just hoping to get an opinion on the corp or if you'd had any dealings with them in the past?

Cheers guys!

Once again
Fly Safe
Trigger
Mynutor
Myn Industries
#2 - 2014-02-01 00:03:08 UTC
I usually tell people like you to join Eve Uni, Red vs. Blue OR Brave Newbies. I didn't have any personal experience with any of them though.

Here is some info you might find interesting:

An article about the formation of Brave Newbies:
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/74260

an article about the Brave Newbies after one year:
http://crossingzebras.com/a-view-from-the-line-one-year-of-brave-newbies/

Objective sighted. Target locked. Lasers activated. Pew-pew-pew. Die roid..., DIE!

Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#3 - 2014-02-01 00:20:24 UTC
I endorse BN. Just be aware that joining them will make high sec dangerous for you due to wardecs, so talk to them to ask where to join from.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-02-01 01:14:57 UTC
As Mynutor, I highly suggest new players to join EVE-Uni, RvB or BNI. Or what is even bettter, find the corp that suits them best.

Also, big issue with your question, it is asking for personal experience and opinions on something.
Just because I did like / hated corp "x" doesn't mean your experiences / opinions will be the same.

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Maccian
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2014-02-01 20:18:48 UTC
Brave Newbies as a corp mate of mine described them "Test Alliance on Steroids"

Test Alliance being a null sec conquering alliance founded by Dreddit from Reddit.com where BNI was born.

Newbie friendly, you will definitely get experience in that alliance.
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#6 - 2014-02-01 20:46:51 UTC
And where E-Uni is serious and dedicated, BNI is dedicated to not being serious at all.

And RvB is all about blowing each other up, serious or not.

So it's quite a nice spread to chose from.

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.

Trigger Zo
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-02-01 23:16:43 UTC
Well once more cheers for the helpful responses today guy's.

I was speaking to some folk in game today and was told that factional warfare could be a lot of fun to partake in whilst I wen't through the early day's of leveling and can be of some use to a corp.

Was just wondering what it actually required?

Do i need to join any particular corp or just be prepared to die an awful lot? Well any more info/ links useful articles you could chuck my way would be great!

Cheers guy's
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#8 - 2014-02-01 23:25:12 UTC
Maccian wrote:
Brave Newbies as a corp mate of mine described them "Test Alliance on Steroids"

Test Alliance being a null sec conquering alliance founded by Dreddit from Reddit.com where BNI was born.

Newbie friendly, you will definitely get experience in that alliance.

to be clear, the main distinguishing factor between 'regular' nullsec alliances and TEST is that incompetence is generally tolerated and almost encouraged ("lol we're bad"). this is what resonates between TEST and BN, albeit BN justifies it with being new while TEST is... well, TEST.

I should buy an Ishtar.

J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-02-01 23:28:44 UTC
Maccian wrote:
Brave Newbies as a corp mate of mine described them "Test Alliance on Steroids"

Test Alliance being a null sec conquering alliance...


Wait...

What...

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Test_Alliance_Please_Ignore

and

https://gate.eveonline.com/Alliance/Test%20Alliance%20Please%20Ignore

Under what rock have you been living.

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Miriya Zakalwe
World Wide Welp
#10 - 2014-02-02 06:17:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Miriya Zakalwe
Trigger Zo wrote:
Well once more cheers for the helpful responses today guy's.

I was speaking to some folk in game today and was told that factional warfare could be a lot of fun to partake in whilst I wen't through the early day's of leveling and can be of some use to a corp.

Was just wondering what it actually required?

Do i need to join any particular corp or just be prepared to die an awful lot? Well any more info/ links useful articles you could chuck my way would be great!

Cheers guy's


Start here.

FW is what I did to get started and it is an excellent way to get an intro to PvP. Just join the NPC corp for your faction and you'll be able to quickly form opinions on the various FW corps based on fighting around/with/etc them and seeing them in militia chat.

The key is to have the attitude that you are going to die a lot so have fun with it, and try and learn by convos with the folks that kill you. You'll find most of them to be totally cool about giving advice.

You can do FW from day 1. I did it from maybe my second week in or so. I left it because I wanted to move in to more general lowsec activities and wanted a good corp and good mentors for that, but I had tons of fun with FW.

Just be ready to die a lot. A lot.
Wombat65Au Egdald
R I S E
#11 - 2014-02-02 10:30:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Wombat65Au Egdald
I'll chime in.

First, some general game information.

When you are in a player run corporation, and another player run corporation declares war against you, they can legitimately attack you anywhere in the game. Being in High Sec space does NOT matter. If you are in a player corp that is at war, you are a legitimate target for any member of the corp that is at war with your corp EVERYWHERE in the game.

Concord (NPC high sec police force) will NOT help you if you are attacked as part of a war.
Gate and station security guns will NOT help you if you are attacked as part of a war.

When you join any player run corporation, this is one of the biggest risks you put yourself into.

I started playing Eve less than a year ago. My experience is limited. Joining a player run corporation does not mean you will be at war with another corporation all the time. There are player corps in this game that have never been at war with another corp, but the risk of war is always there. Also, it is possible for multiple player corps to all declare war against one particular player corp at the same time.

Player corps cannot declare war on an NPC corp, CCP does not allow that.

I'm not an official representative of Brave Newbies, I'm just an ordinary member and I joined Brave Newbies less than a month ago.

I gave Eve-Uni some serious consideration when I decided to leave the NPC corp I started the game in. Eve-Uni has a very highly respected reputation for teaching new players how to play Eve. They've been around for years and know what they are doing. They have what is probably the most useful player created information wikis on Eve. http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page

When I decided wanted to join a player corp, I checked various blogs and forum posts about the Eve-Uni and Brave Newbies. The general impression I picked up was that Eve-Uni is very methodical. They have quite a few rules about what new players should and should not do. These rules are there to protect new members from making bad mistakes. I'm not saying those rules are a bad thing, if they prevent new players from repeatedly doing stupid things that end badly and cause the players to quit the game because it's "too hard" then those rules are actually a good thing, but not everyone enjoys the restrictions those rules create, even if those restrictions are ultimately there to help and protect the new and inexperienced members of Eve-Uni.

Brave Newbies doesn't do things the same way. There are far fewer rules, but as a result, higher risks of making a bad mistake. One of the reasons why Brave Newbies was created in the first place was because the person who started the corp didn't know that starting their own player corp after playing Eve for only 2 weeks isn't a generally good idea, but in his case it was a great idea.

Brave Newbies does organise various group activities and isn't only about shooting at things but for most members, shooting at things and getting shot at in return is why we joined Brave Newbies.

I really don't know enough about RedvsBlue to make any sensible comments about them.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#12 - 2014-02-02 14:59:22 UTC
Removed a recruitment post. Please don't recruit in New Citizen's Q&A. Thank you.

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

Senior Lead

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department

Maccian
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2014-02-04 10:40:27 UTC



Are you trying to tell me test alliance never held sov in null sec...

Brave newbies beginnings are very similar to Test Alliances...
RAIN Arthie
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-02-04 12:29:49 UTC
What I find funny about not being able to recruit in these pages, is that a lot of the stuff written on here is wrong. Why not offer them a place to learn instead of letting them hear bad advice. I wonder if that is the type of enviroment CCP approves of? The new players are exploited, mad, confused, and then they leave the game. Pathetic and sad really.
Trigger Zo
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-02-04 19:16:32 UTC
Well firstly I'd like to say once more all your help has been awesome! But joining a corp is a lot and I mean A LOT more difficult that I originally considered! It definitely aint no guild system that's for sure!

However I've been hearing a good few things about the Brave Newbies, especially on the few Podcast's I listen to so I'm really tempted to join these guy's,

I also feel like joining a larger corporation such as The Brave Newbies will give me firmer ground to learn the game, with their being more veteran players and a range of times. Meaning theres always some one available to help?

I've also received a few offers from smaller corps

But for now I think I'll stick it out in my NPC corp for a while and continue to learn the game, then once their recruitment overload has died down sign up to the Brave Newbies sound like a decent plan to you guy's?

Lemme know what you think as you always do! cheers

Trigger
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#16 - 2014-02-04 19:36:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Gizznitt Malikite
I've had a lot of experience shooting with EvE Uni, RvB, and BNI. All of these organizations will offer access to fun game play, excellent multiplayer content, and I give all three organizations mad props.

BNI is for lowsec / nullsec PvP in larger (cheaper) fleets. They use numbers to counter limited skillpoints (although they aren't so new anymore), and generally play to blow things up. Try them out, you'll have fun. Just realize you will lose ships, and get blown up regularly, and that's part of the fun!


Wombat65Au Egdald wrote:

When you are in a player run corporation, and another player run corporation declares war against you, they can legitimately attack you anywhere in the game.


Pshh... Wombat acts like this is a bad thing. War means they can shoot you, and you can shoot them. This is a gooood thing!