EVE General Discussion

ALLLLLLLrighty THEN
So, hypothetically speaking of course, if some dude in a stealth bomber is cruising around your area making bookmarks at belts, bookmarking anoms when they spawn, making bookmarks near gates and stations he's safe from you then?
Is it ok if he, hypothetically, does little else except sit cloaked in different systems for days at a time?
Because if so, when you have anything really worth losing, (like orcas, rorqs, moon mining pos towers, or god forbid ratting carriers) you're going to lose it, hard.

Edit: everyone thinks they are the good guys.

Well yeah point taken but i meant the entirely unwarranted and essentially evil sort of aggression displayed in null by people with brains bigger than peas.
Just seems like a lot of hemming n hawing that is really NBSIBOITABGNTGGOOAGRTLABN (Not Blue Shoot It But Only If They Are Bad Guys Not The Good Guys Oh Okay Any Guy Really That Looks A Bit Nasty)

Actually speaking, first of all one has to check his record, how many kills who is he linked with, in other words the kills he had with other people, any posts on the forums saying death to all carebears for example, anything liking him to corp thefts etc., not the full story, but you get quite few clues from that sort of thing. After that its leave something to see if they bite at it, just how aggresive they are, do they shoot anything that moves or do they have to have a reason to shoot people.

Another aspect is that even though he is neutral, we treat him as a potential threat, which does not mean sitting there saying come attack me, we get safe etc. I will also start keeping an eye on them myself, seeing what they do, you can soon tell whether a player is interested in doing relic and data sites or not, for example I will be cloaked up in the most juicy one seeing if they do it for example, but if they hang around a lot in a stealth bomber, then it looks more and more likely that they are a threat.

Another aspect to note, and very relevent to threats, many of our people use small ships to operate in, therefore a single stealth bomber is likely to be more at risk from our guys than us from him, when I go belt ratting with the lads, my assault frigates are combat fit, so I would chew up that stealth bomber, also anything bigger will have to be pretty quick to get one of us.and if they did its only an assault frigate or T1 frigate or destroyer. Also our fleets are highly mobile, most aggressive people around here are too much into dropping BLOPS to be much of a threat to us, they might get one of us, but with our increased numbers they might well get caught by us.

Orca's don't use, they are too slow and in any case not suited for NPC 0.0, Rorquals don't use, in any case would have in a POS only, but hardly worth it for Ventures, moon mining POS don't use, though I have some POS's here ready to go if I feel like it in terms of having numbers, ratting carriers don't use, in my opinion using a carrier to rat with sentry drones is suicide, don't forget that part of the approach is to operate below the radar, as you know there are people who will hot drop a rifter, but not that many to be honest, so using small fast ships that can rip bombers and interceptors a new one, are pretty damn safe.

Good, well I do not have to go into verbal gymnastics to define myself as good, I don't have to turn the other person into the son of satan, by telling myself that he bots, is a filthy carebear and does not get Eve to paint myself in my own mind as a good guy, I can safely assure you that tears do not sustain me in anyway shape or form, all I do is see if they are aggressive and if they are then treat them accordingly, in other words I have to have a reason to go after people. The most amusing thing however is that we play long term, so Mr quickfixattentionspanofagnat is going to have to really hunt to get one of us, most give up and go after easier targets!

Not this again.

well. good luck

Safe?
You're going to poop around NPC null in BCs or smaller, doing no great amount of industry?
Why bother? Any newbro worth his salt is going to move on to a quality outfit.
Also, there is no below the radar with a forum thread. Any serious bump on NPC kills will bring wolves too.
What's the plan when dreads come to kill POS towers just because?

Sounds pretty average. Got 6 of those in a week once.
It's not what you fly, it's the way you ding the NPC kills filter on the starmap that attracts ratter killers. But you seem to know everything, which is a real worry.
Too many paragraphs.

This thread continues to be pure comedy gold. Can we get Aaron to post some more about how he deeply "feels" that all of highsec wants to come out and join him? Or how mining in frigates/cruisers in NPC null is at all efficient compared to barges in highsec or sov space? I thought those were especially funny.

Search my posts in forum. You'll find your're wrong.

Paragon is nice space and the alliance was good enough for Aaron to join and then get kicked out of.



Not really relevant and not my PvP character, obviously, although since you brought it up, I will point out that my ratting character has more kills than Aaron does over the past year.



Yep, I've lost a few battleships to bad luck and protecting miners, doesn't change the fact that neither of you have a very good grasp of game mechanics when you talk about mining to build capital ships with unboosted ventures in NPC nullsec. The miners you are trying to recruit would be much better off in highsec in mining barges with Orca support just buying the Zydrine and Megacyte they need off the market. It's hard enough building capital ships when you have an infinite supply of ore anoms in sov nullsec; I can't imagine trying to mine the 110 million trit you need for a rorqual in any reasonable timeframe in ventures without boosts or ore anoms.

But I'm not really interested in debating the point since the two of you seem deadset on this. Have fun in those ventures, lol.

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