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Contracting to move 50,000 m3 of "cargo"...

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James Chimerae
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-02-01 02:40:35 UTC
Having just come into some ISK (A few hundred million), I bought a Rokh. Seeing a deal, I quickly bought the cheapest one despite it being 11 jumps away. My problem is, that I have to go through a few 0.1 sec areas in order to get to the thing.

Since the most powerful vessel I have is a single Cormorant, I thought I might be able to contract someone to haul the thing into safer space for me. Is it possible to shove a 50,000 m3 Rokh into someone else's ship, or should I abandon all hope of doing this in a contract? If possible, what's a good payout?

Also, first post here! If I got it wrong in posting into this section, please tell me politely.
X ATM092
The Hatchery
RAZOR Alliance
#2 - 2014-02-01 02:44:35 UTC
Fly it home with warp core stabs, ecm in the mids and Jesus on your side. Also next time check where you buy, it was probably overpriced given the location.
James Chimerae
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-02-01 02:59:01 UTC
X ATM092 wrote:
Fly it home with warp core stabs, ecm in the mids and Jesus on your side. Also next time check where you buy, it was probably overpriced given the location.


Makes sense to me. Is it possible to have someone courier it though?
Hesod Adee
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-02-01 03:02:09 UTC
I've heard that Black Frog will handle low sec hauling. I've never used them.
X ATM092
The Hatchery
RAZOR Alliance
#5 - 2014-02-01 03:03:11 UTC
Unlikely to be worth it but here you go.
http://black-frog.red-frog.org/jumps.php
James Chimerae
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-02-01 03:10:22 UTC
X ATM092 wrote:
Unlikely to be worth it but here you go.
http://black-frog.red-frog.org/jumps.php


Looks like they want 75,000,000 ISK to do it. I've got enough ISK to wipe my rear end with it at this point, so that's fine.

Thanks a lot for the link! I appreciate you help.
Xurr
Wasted Potential.
#7 - 2014-02-01 04:14:45 UTC
You might have stopped checking this thread but...

Warp stabs in low and fully insured might be less of a loss on death than getting the thing whole after paying 75mil.
Adunh Slavy
#8 - 2014-02-01 12:25:45 UTC
Fly out there in a shuttle, sell it with a 90 day sell order at the same price you bought it. Go back to high sec, buy another one and hope that sooner or later someone one else will be as foolish as you once were.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt

Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#9 - 2014-02-01 14:33:19 UTC
Are you sure you can only get to the Rokh via lowsec?

With my autopilot settings, I get sent through lowsec going from Dodixie to Jita, however, there are all-highsec routes too.

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James Chimerae
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-02-01 16:59:07 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Are you sure you can only get to the Rokh via lowsec?
With my autopilot settings, I get sent through lowsec going from Dodixie to Jita, however, there are all-highsec routes too.


Yeah. When I set it to avoid null-sec it calculates over 2 million jumps and then deletes the destination.


Xurr wrote:
You might have stopped checking this thread but...
Warp stabs in low and fully insured might be less of a loss on death than getting the thing whole after paying 75mil.


It would be most definitely cheaper. Unfortunately, I'm too lazy and intimidated to even try.
Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2014-02-01 22:25:42 UTC
Is it 0.1 or -0.1?
If it is sov null you most likely won't be able to dock. If it is npc null or low sec then you are fine.
travel there in a shuttle. It is very very very hard to catch a shuttle in low sec (this is not true in null due to bubbles.
then Buy max insurance. fit stabs and make a run for it.
worse that happens is you collect the insurance isk.
make sure you get your pod out if your ship starts going down :).
People make too much fuss over low and null. They aren't as bad as people make out. The PvP is fun and many of the pilots are even worse than i am at it. Also the corps tend to be better run and more interesting to hang out in.

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I Was There
Habemus
#12 - 2014-02-02 11:50:39 UTC
And I thought I had seen a lot of risk averse dudes.
James Chimerae
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-02-03 20:21:08 UTC
I Was There wrote:
And I thought I had seen a lot of risk averse dudes.


I'm a relatively new player with very little experience. I've only played for about 38 days.


Silvetica Dian wrote:
Is it 0.1 or -0.1?
If it is sov null you most likely won't be able to dock. If it is npc null or low sec then you are fine.
travel there in a shuttle. It is very very very hard to catch a shuttle in low sec (this is not true in null due to bubbles.
then Buy max insurance. fit stabs and make a run for it.
worse that happens is you collect the insurance isk.
make sure you get your pod out if your ship starts going down :).
People make too much fuss over low and null. They aren't as bad as people make out. The PvP is fun and many of the pilots are even worse than i am at it. Also the corps tend to be better run and more interesting to hang out in.


Thanks for the tips. I'll keep that in mind for next time. The problem with the shuttle in this situation, is that I can't pilot a Rokh yet, as I don't have the right skills yet.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#14 - 2014-02-03 21:50:08 UTC
get isk
purchase ship you cannot fly
in a location you cannot access
Best course of action is to sell it for a loss (maybe like a 10-15% markdown) and hope someone buys it.
Hope you at least learned a lesson for your isk

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Never forget.

James Chimerae
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-02-03 22:01:51 UTC
Batelle wrote:
get isk
purchase ship you cannot fly
in a location you cannot access
Best course of action is to sell it for a loss (maybe like a 10-15% markdown) and hope someone buys it.
Hope you at least learned a lesson for your isk


I guess so. Although, having spent over a billion ISK on bounties in the last 3 days, maybe not.
Xintri Ra'Virr
Yamaguchi-Gumi
#16 - 2014-02-04 00:02:18 UTC
James Chimerae wrote:
X ATM092 wrote:
Unlikely to be worth it but here you go.
http://black-frog.red-frog.org/jumps.php


Looks like they want 75,000,000 ISK to do it. I've got enough ISK to wipe my rear end with it at this point, so that's fine.

Thanks a lot for the link! I appreciate you help.


If you can pay 75m for hauling it and still you consider it a good trade, well God Bless stupid people who sell that low.

Forget bout stabs.

Simple Heavy Dictor will make you boom and trust me pirates will know you are coming when you will be a few jumps away from their location.

Learn cloak + MWD trick you can move basicly anything that way throu lowsec.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#17 - 2014-02-04 00:20:51 UTC
Can you clarify the exact sec status of each system in the route?

Getting a ship through lowsec (positive sec status under 0.5) is considerably safer than busy sovereign null.

My advice would be to resell the ship at 125% of what you paid for it and expect it to take ages to sell.

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enterprisePSI
#18 - 2014-02-04 09:12:08 UTC
Market > settings > uncheck the display orders in low and zero security systems.

The tears of the many, outweigh the tears of the few. Or the one. enterprise-psi©

Rashnu Gorbani
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2014-02-04 13:58:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Rashnu Gorbani
There is one way that's maybe a little adventurous an definitely not worth the trouble but if I were to risk something that's pretty much my net worth I'd check any alternative.
Finding a wormhole in said system that's a direct connection to a hisec system (or lowsec with hisec exit).
If there is a C1 or C2 intermediary WH system that seems empty it could be a good choice too, if you're several WCS / couple nano fit.
This would require you to be able to actually have scan skills and have a ship (preferably covert ops) that can get there and look around relatively safely.
If I weren't so lazy I'd offer to help but my scanner alt has about 250m worth of implants I should get rid of first, she's not in hisec and she doesn't have a scanning ship in empire either so it would be time consuming, then if there's no WH in system the safest is to wait until there will be one AND local seems empty enough to try (who knows few people may be waiting at the WH).

It's complicated but if you do have a scanning character it could be cheapest way.
Sola Mercury
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2014-02-06 11:04:23 UTC
enterprisePSI wrote:
Market > settings > uncheck the display orders in low and zero security systems.


doesn't help if you buy something located in a high sec isle, seems to me, this is what happened to him.
Before buying, I set course to the station and check if the route goes through low/null.
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