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Need advice on PvP Arbitrator fit

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Elinor Arnoux
Space SeoulMilk Corporation
#1 - 2014-02-03 16:03:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Elinor Arnoux
Hi,

Recently, I've been looking for a PvP cruiser and decided to give Arbitrator a shot (I just chose the best looking one among Amarr cruisers Big smile).

I've never flown a drone ship before and relatively new to EVE, so I'd like to hear some opinions about those two fittings I made with ETF :

1. Buffer tanked Arbitrator

Quote:
[Arbitrator, Arbitrator PvP]
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
800mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

Tracking Disruptor II, Optimal Range Disruption Script
10MN Afterburner II
Warp Scrambler II
Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 200

Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Small Nosferatu II
Small Nosferatu II

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

Hammerhead II x5

  • EFT screenshot : http://goo.gl/J5MDpY

    • 2. Double Rep. Arbitrator

    Quote:
    [Arbitrator, Arbitrator PvP + Rep]
    Damage Control II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    800mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
    Medium Armor Repairer II
    Medium Armor Repairer II

    Tracking Disruptor II, Optimal Range Disruption Script
    10MN Afterburner II
    Warp Scrambler II
    Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 200

    Small Nosferatu II
    Small Nosferatu II
    Small Nosferatu II
    Small Nosferatu II

    Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
    Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
    Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I

    Hammerhead II x5

  • EFT screenshot : http://goo.gl/tRcdA4

    • I'd like to know if those fittings are sensible ones, and if so what would be better for pure PvP, and for PvP with occasional 4/10 DED runs.

    Any kind of advice would be appreciated.

    Thanks!
    Benny Ohu
    Royal Amarr Institute
    Amarr Empire
    #2 - 2014-02-03 16:27:17 UTC
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    I just chose the best looking one among Amarr cruisers

    Damn straight.

    I like the buffer-tanked one better, but that's just me. I never really worked out active reps :( Buffer's easier to work with since you're paying attention to less things at once and there's less that can go wrong. It's also a lot less skill intensive.

    http://themittani.com/news/alod-little-arby-could Here's something. (that was before the drone damage mod was introduced?)

    While you're fitting, bear in mind that the meta 4 scram, TD, web and neuts (maybe the nos?) are actually better than the tech two versions, and a meta prop is often more desirable than the tech two. It's really only an issue if you're having CPU or capacitor issues though, since the meta 4 mods are usually more expensive. And remember you don't perma-run both the neuts.

    I only just got decent drones skills, maybe I should fit some (i'm bad don't tell my corp)
    Derath Ellecon
    University of Caille
    Gallente Federation
    #3 - 2014-02-03 16:28:45 UTC
    There is a Ships and Modules forum, for ya know, ships and modules and their fittings.

    Just FYI
    ISD LackOfFaith
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    ISD Alliance
    #4 - 2014-02-03 16:47:38 UTC
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    Bertrand Butler
    Cras es Noster
    #5 - 2014-02-03 17:56:01 UTC
    Here is something that might help..C:

    [Arbitrator, 1]

    1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Damage Control II

    Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
    J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
    Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
    Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I

    Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
    Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
    Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
    Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I

    Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
    Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
    Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

    Hammerhead II x7
    Warrior II x6
    Hornet EC-300 x5
    Hobgoblin II x5

    You have close to 40k EHP to work with. Web, scram and neut your target, while using your drones to keep him down. Cost is about 35mil, rigged and ready.
    Chessur
    Full Broadside
    Deepwater Hooligans
    #6 - 2014-02-03 23:26:07 UTC
    I can give you a few fits- but can you tell me, are you planning to solo? Or use this in a fleet? I have a few fits for either, but not a fit that does both lol
    Vladimir Norkoff
    Income Redistribution Service
    #7 - 2014-02-03 23:43:11 UTC
    If you are looking for a droneboat cruiser, I'd suggest to cross-train over to Gallente for the Vexor. Which is hands down the best basic T1 droneboat cruiser, and possibly the best basic T1 cruiser period (note - I am slightly biased in this regard). The Arbi is not bad, it's just that at it's core it's an e-war cruiser. Whereas the Vexor is a "combat cruiser" so it's a bit sturdier and hits harder. If you are working with a group, the Arbi can do well. If you are running solo/ very small gang then the Vexor is probably the better choice.

    If you want to stick with Amarr then go with the Omen. You can fit a 1600 plate, T2 Pulses, MWD, and long point and do the kitey thing. Even with the hvy plate it's still fairly zippy, and is good training for eventually using a Navy Omen.
    Elinor Arnoux
    Space SeoulMilk Corporation
    #8 - 2014-02-04 01:33:10 UTC
    First of all, sorry for posting to the wrong forum. I didn't know that there was a dedicated one to discuss fittings Blink

    Thanks for the interesting story and fitting advice, Benny! And Bertrand for the fitting, I'll definately run my EFT to see how it improves over mine.

    I'll probably fly solo most of the times, Chessur. I'm thinking about clearning DED combat site with it (combined with a Magnate for scanning), and engage anyone who might oppose me in the process.

    Thanks for the advice, Vladimir. However, I'm afraid I'll have to stick to Arbitrator for a while, because my reason behind choosing it was actually the other way around.

    I didn't search for a drone boat cruiser, but I found a Curse very nice looking and the idea of permanently neuting/disrupting enemies so while I'm training for the skills, I decided to try its little sister first. It's just accidentally they both happened to be a drone boat, so I had to go for it.

    Yes, appearance of ships is that much important to me Big smile
    Chessur
    Full Broadside
    Deepwater Hooligans
    #9 - 2014-02-04 02:26:13 UTC
    Elinor Arnoux wrote:
    First of all, sorry for posting to the wrong forum. I didn't know that there was a dedicated one to discuss fittings Blink

    Thanks for the interesting story and fitting advice, Benny! And Bertrand for the fitting, I'll definately run my EFT to see how it improves over mine.

    I'll probably fly solo most of the times, Chessur. I'm thinking about clearning DED combat site with it (combined with a Magnate for scanning), and engage anyone who might oppose me in the process.

    Thanks for the advice, Vladimir. However, I'm afraid I'll have to stick to Arbitrator for a while, because my reason behind choosing it was actually the other way around.

    I didn't search for a drone boat cruiser, but I found a Curse very nice looking and the idea of permanently neuting/disrupting enemies so while I'm training for the skills, I decided to try its little sister first. It's just accidentally they both happened to be a drone boat, so I had to go for it.

    Yes, appearance of ships is that much important to me Big smile


    Sadly the arbitrator is not the little sister to the Curse. On my alt I have flown extensively the Heavy neut, TD, and Med neut curse in nano gangs. Ship is a beast- and provides the last word in field control and anti-support. Curse is an amazing ship because of the ease you have when it comes to breaking tackle, and controlling range.

    Sadly the arbitrator is none of these things- and in general is a pretty sub par ship.

    If you are asking me for a fit that will allow you to both PvP and PvE in an arbitrator hull, I really can't give you that. Few ships nowadays can PvE and PvP from the same fit. The arbitrator is not one of them.

    If you want to fly a PvE ship, you can use the arb. But if you like the idea of the Curse- try Sentinel. That ship perfectly mirrors what the curse can do, only on a smaller (and cheaper) scale.

    If you still want some fittings. let me know- but a PvP and PvE arbi fit really doesn't exist, and if it does- it will be complete **** at both.
    Faceless Parmala
    State War Academy
    Caldari State
    #10 - 2014-02-04 03:50:10 UTC
    Check out my loss mail for this ship..would link the fit but am on a tablet
    Garviel Tarrant
    Beyond Divinity Inc
    Shadow Cartel
    #11 - 2014-02-04 12:57:56 UTC
    The most fun solo arbitrator is a dual rep one.

    [Arbitrator, Garviel Tarrant's Arbitrator]
    Damage Control II
    Medium Armor Repairer II
    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
    Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer

    Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
    J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
    Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
    Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I

    Light Neutron Blaster II,Void S
    Light Neutron Blaster II,Void S
    Rapid Light Missile Launcher II,Nova Fury Light Missile
    Rapid Light Missile Launcher II,Nova Fury Light Missile

    Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
    Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
    Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I

    This was the one i used before the RLML change. Just switch out the rlml's for whatever you want. People don't expect it and its quite fun ^^

    BYDI recruitment closed-ish

    Taoist Dragon
    x Never Regret x
    #12 - 2014-02-04 13:28:34 UTC
    Most ppl fit it out like a T1 curse.....Bah! it doesn't get any bonuses to neuts and if you go with a dps fit like garvs etc you will surprise a lot of people.

    The Arbitrator is one very versatile boat. I took this out and had a good go at a few SFI's 1v1 and they all pretty much had to run away from me. Never killed one but that was mainly pilot errors from me (have I mentioned how crap I am?)

    [Arbitrator, Solo/small gang - plate/rep]

    Damage Control II
    800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
    Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II

    10MN Afterburner II
    DDO Photometry Tracking Disruptor I, Tracking Speed Disruption Script
    J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
    Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

    Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
    Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
    Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
    Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I

    Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
    Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
    Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

    Vespa II x5
    Warrior II x5
    Hornet II x5
    Vespa EC-600 x5

    I just got in close on the warp in to a FW plex and orbit at 500m. Fit is cap stable with standard 800 cap boosters so as long as you have cap boosters you just keep going. :)

    That is the Way, the Tao.

    Balance is everything.