Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hi All,

I did post this in general but i should have put this here. ill delete the other one.

While reflecting on the past few years of playing this wonderful game, i kept thinking about the EVE gate. About the collapse and the colonization of new Eden. The milky-way must still be alive in some form or another.

It was a joint effort to spread into new territory a collaboration of who knows how many factions or races, the devastation must have affected the home galaxy as it did new Eden?.

I would love to see a sister MMO created, cut from the same cloth as EVE telling the other sides storey. Maybe this tore up relations and fractured the races as it did in new edan.

New races, new ships, new galaxy.

A storey told from the other side. It could work as all new Eden tech is based off of what was left behind one the gate closed so the divide would not be insurmountable.

I think the possibilities would be fantastic. Down the line an event which re-activates the eve gate and allows the traversing of both sides more WH space more Null sec, new corps Tech, new ships.

everything running in parallel and one day maybe the merging of these worlds.

Its a pipe dream but its one i would happily pay to play.

Maybe there is a way to make it work in the current cluster a new faction and new area within new Eden. A colony that survived the gate collapse, one that still adhered to the old ways used and developed the old tech. One that still searches for a way home with no ties to the factions we know.

Maybe even hostile towards everyone and making a move to take territory and technology to allow the repair of the gate to bring in reinforcements, something new eden may not want and will actively try to prevent.

Just a thought.

I like to hear any theories or input anyone has on this as if nothing else its a damn cool topic.

Best Regards
Normandy

"A unique racial skill could be the ability to interface with any abandoned drone on the field that the drone player has the skill to control"

That would be an awesome sight and a damn scary one to be caught on the wrong side of ^.^

I would like to see the Terrans return to New Eden, but I think they could just turn out too powerful, which I don't necessarily have a problem with. However the races in New Eden including the Jovians (who seem to have disappeared completely) don't seem to have even got close to the level of technology the Terrans had before the collapse of the Eve Gate.

If I remember the history of New Eden post Eve Gate collapse, the surviving races more or less got lucky as the planets they were on had at least reasonable terraforming on them at least enough to support life, so they ended up loosing all their technology and having to start again. I have a feeling on the other side of the Eve Gate in our galaxy I doubt it would have been as big a deal so I suspect the residents of New Eden would have a hard time of it if the Terrans returned.

Having said that, there are relic sites all over New Eden and based on the book "Empirian Age" there are some left over technologies that can be adapted to significant effect. So if they were to be added back in to Eve I would like to see the possibility of finding technologies that could be used for defence of our space (in more ways than one) or at least drop clues on how do develop it. Maybe even open up Jovian space to exploration maybe, firstly just out of curiosity and secondly it would be interesting to maybe make use of their now lost technologies.

OK small disclaimer to this I would like to see a storyline like this develop and have have access to this technology, but I also realise the wider implication of adding advanced super weapons to New Eden could have a destabilising effect on the current way everything works. However that dose not mean it cant be added as maintaining stability can make things boring .

I don't think we will ever get access to Jove space as it is CCP's testing area and playground.

The more I think about drones as a race the more I like the idea. They could be a more flexible set of vessels, much more dynamic but maybe less raw power.

Each 'ship' would consist of a central hull with armour, CPU, and power core.

Weapons would be in the form of drones that can be detached to attack as per combat drones, or remain docked and fire as turrets with greater dps (drawing more power from the ship to supplement internal power sources.

Shields would be in the form of shield drones, docked they have more raw shield HP, but undocked they can be assigned to defend against specifc incoming fire (work the same as reactive armour but for shields).

Repair systems are in the form of repair drones, covering both local (docked) repair and remote (undocked) repair. Docked drones repair more HP per cycle, undocked can be assigned to repair anyone else as per remote reps..

Bandwidth determines the number of drones that can be flown at any given time, and multiple drone types can be carried depending on storage (surface area of hull to cling on to). Drones would be activated in the same manner that drones are currently launched.

Drones would still use the same skill queue, gaining more sentience with each skill learnt. Naturally human prejudice would be prevalent at least initially with only drone hives, SoE and possibly Gallente being prepared to deal with sentient drones (SoE because they protect all life and Gallente because they want to learn better drone tech from them).

earth had about 5000-5500 years of technological advancement in a space age before finding the eve wormhole - at that point already a couple of thousand years beyond the technology of the playable races.

within 40 years of the eve gate collapse the most colonies have perished - most likely due to lack of supplies from earth

the jove recover within centuries of the collapse and prosper for at least 9000 years

by about 16000 years of the collapse of the eve gate the playable factions have begun to emerge - at this point the jove have managed to accidentally create the jovian disease and have retreated to a secluded area

aprox 21000 - 22500 the amarr, minmatar, gallente and caldari develope space flight and begin to meet each other and later fight each other

23233 - concord founded

currently eve is in the year YC 115 - in earth terms AD 23348.

assuming the eve galaxy is a dwarf galaxy then the humans of earth would have been affected far less on the milky way side of the gate due to them having already colonised much of the home galaxy and having important infrastructure already set up.

I see 2 likely possibilities for the story of the milky way after the collapse
1 - all out war due to dwindling resources leaving the galaxy devastated and taking the people there thousands of years to begin to recover, this might actually leave the jove more advanced than the milky way humans
2 - resources have been poured into a project to create stargates between galaxies, a project that is successful within a thousand years of the collapse and they are expanding between galaxies - perhaps leading the factions of the milky way to new eden giving an opportunity for a major story line where some of those factions come to invade while others try and forge alliances with the new eden empires. this would likely have the milky way factions well ahead of the jove in technology

You want more monsters? We already have capsuleers :D

There is a 3rd possibility regarding Terrans. They gave up on colonizing after losing so many lives after the Eve gate collapse and stayed local. Subsequently their tech didn't advance much more since there was no requirement for it to do so.Especially if they were essentially peaceful then tech would have developed in life sciences and the like. Without excessive warfare weapons development would stagnate leaving Terran ships not so far ahead in terms of raw firepower, but maybe more refined vessels, less mass, sturdier construction, better propulsion (jitter jump drive that hops the vessel 20 Km through partial warp breaking locks for instance).

The possibilities are only limited by imagination if it were decided to bring in another race, the tricky bit would be maintaining balance.

My thoughts on this are that if a new (or old) race were introduced they should be encountered first in exploration areas (such as the suggested Dinsdale Cloud). I can imagine that even if they came in peace and attempted to parly the average capsuleer would open fire and try to steal anything they could. I know how I would react if I came to say hello and got a hailing call cased in anti-matter...

Just on this, i was mulling over this issue with the development gap of races but is the EVE gate not only a rift in space but in time? so what if it was the case that if the two galaxies were of different time periods?.

What if!?

When the gate collapsed on New edans side with time progressing for 21000 - 22500 as you say untill our current stage....

BUT

On the Terran side that gate has still just collapsed? what was 21000 - 22500 years to New Edan was only days maybe weeks to the Terran?, some time dilation between the two.

One day the eve gate sparks to life with a cryptic message in a long dead language, once decrypted it reads something along the lines of

"Hold on ......Gate damaged....convoy lost......support is near"

Or something to indicate that they are working on the gate issue and are nearing completion to reactivate the gate.

This would level the technology playing field somewhat.

If the gate was opened what would the Terrans do? seeing new Eden bristling with life culture?. What would new Eden do? Amarr saw Terrans as the gods? would they welcome them or treat them as false gods? and insult and pretender reacting with hostile intent. Would Minimatar side with Terran against Amarr? how would Gallante and caldari view them?.

What about private corps looking on the milkyway with lustful eyes.

Even if it were a matter of days for the Terran side the technology difference is still significant. I base that on the events of Empirian Age where I guess a fairly average weapon was recovered form a wreck of a Terran ship near the Eve Gate and it was capable of wiping out a whole fleet of ships.

But I like the idea that the Eve Gate has a temporal effect where time is slower on the other side for some reason, but I am sure there is a whole lot of Physics that I don't understand to explain how unlikely it could be. However, one way to look at that situation is that New Eden is in a pocket universe.

I am guessing if the Eve Gate opened or some other means of returning to New Eden, the Terrans would have some scout ships or send a large mother ship and go have a look around looking for the largest groups, be them the 4 main Empires, the Pirates or even the 0.0 Alliances, it is then all down to the collective psychology of these groups. The Terrans would have to understand the current political situation in New Eden before they do anything big, because they could use their technology to have us all wipe are selves out, and operate from behind the scenes.

If the Terrans arrive openly then you might have a divide over how to treat them some will be friendly such as the Amarr though I suspect there will be opposition too among their factions too. The Caldari would probably view their arrival as a business opportunity and exploit any opportunity they will get with the Terrans as long as they don't threaten their autonomy. Gallente probably less likely to try and engage in combat of any of the factions. Minmatar having experienced the effects of Terran technology first hand, might want to avoid combat, but equitably they may have devised a way counter the effects of such weapons, and be the best prepared of all races. Pirates and Players will almost certainly see them as a means of getting new technologies one way or another.

Having said that given the historical encounters between the Jovians by the Amarr I doubt that any of the 4 Empires will be looking to take on an enemy like the Terrans if they were to return. unless they had no choice I have a feeling any kind of combat will probably be started by the Terrans themselves if they view the population of New Eden as an easy target to be conquered, historically technological inferior civilizations fall to the technologically superior, there might be a fight but the outcome is usually the same.

If not started by the Terrans then I guess Pirates would be an obvious choice, Sansha being my best candidate not wanting to give up his technological edge or wanting to exploit that edge.

Player factions would be looking for something new to shoot and it wont matter if they come in peace .

So there could be a lot I have missed and glazed over here, but it does cover perhaps a realistic approach to the situation, there is no guarantee that the Terrans should be hostile, but for example if the milky way is low on resources and a bunch of primitive space faring cultures are in your way they may do all kinds of things to exploit us the residents of New Eden before they simply turn their guns on us.

Perhaps some chained missions that require hacking data/relic sites (sometimes defended, others not). Reverse engineering on the data would yield another site to investigate and so on. make it more random so it doesn't get translated into 'go here do that' buy eve survival and such.