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Thanks for listening to us CCP. Keep up the good work

A somewhat more arcane request:

Could we please get some good story background on the Interbus customs offices? My alliance has been discussing whether we want to shoot down Interbus COs (they're neutral, why would we?), and even whether we consider others shooting Interbus COs as piracy (they're shooting corp property of a peaceful entity, so yes; CONCORD doesn't care at all, so no?)

It's a lovely discussion, but there's awfully little backstory on the issue, so it's not easy to actually discuss the ethical ramifications. *Some* background would be nice :-)

Seems like they've gone with the upper end of the values.



Tested just now on Sisi. Imported and exported on a highsec CO (10% tariff rate). Import cost was at 5%, export was at 10%.

Is is possible to considerably drop the HP of wh/low/null NPC customs offices? I run a modest operation in a wormhole and don't entirely look forward to spending 12 hours a day bashing all 10 or so offices we have in our system.

Are you just pretending to be thick, or are you a hereditary blond and so naturally dumb. FFS give your head a shake then go play preferably in another MMOG.

So are the Interbus CO's going to be pinata's? Does all my PI that I won't be able to get to right after DT become party prizes for ******* CO griefers?


Fail CCP - bullshit fail.

Interbus COs do not drop loot. They are not pinatas.

They're also intended to be temporary holdovers until people place POCOs, which have a reinforcement timer. You want to do PI in lowsec? Use the Interbus, get some friends and drop a POCO, or use someone else's POCO.

Player-driven economy.

More like punching dummies, I'd say. It remains to be seen how long the life expectancy of a POCO will be.

I like the player-driven economy part of it. but if it isn't reasonably economical to place these, we could see a pronounced shift in economic power to the likes of the Goonwaffe, which would be good for you, but bad for the game, and thus ultimately bad for you as well.

A lot depends on what you guys end up doing in reality. I won't be blaming you guys if it all goes to Hek in a handbasket. You guys are part of the game, and whatever behavior emerges from this, emerges from this.

Eliminating the ability to restrict access, making BPCs more affordable/accessible, introducing it more gradually -- anything that makes it less likely that Goonswarm or any other large group (you guys just have the good name) actually ends up with an effective losec PI monopoly, would make this a lot less risky as a new feature.

Aside from the risk of totally mangling the economy and balance of power between large and small, the real thing that annoys me is not being able to launch these for myself, rather than for my corp. I should be able to do a little side venture, without dragging my corp into it. Then if it works out, I can pitch doing it with corp backing on a grander scale. If they get knocked down whack-a-mole style, then I eat the loss, with any earnings to console me.

I might still have a scout or two try putting up some of these in losec just to learn how they work out. Since I'm presently wormhole-based, I'll be dealing with that set of issues.

Any bets on how long until the last Interbus CO disappears from losec? I really have no idea, myself, but I'd love to see the data on that, the number of POCO's put up, killed, average life, average time a planet goes without a CO, etc.

This is going to be a hard one to find out. Depending on whose POCO it is, who else lives in the area, their relationships, and how previous fights have gone, it can be anything from 24 hours to months and years. Towers usually last a long time, but they are both harder to attack, and more discreet. POCOs are visible on the overview from the entire system.


Unlikely. Shooting them is boring enough that 0.0 alliances won't travel long distances to do it. If it takes an hour to get there, 5 minutes shooting, and another hour to get home, nobody is going to bother. Especially when 10 guys can quickly reinforce your POCO the next day and force you to do it all again.

Control will probably go to the dominant entities in each area. That's going to be strong pirate groups, FW groups, and the occasional strong highsec/antipirate group (when I say group, I mean either single corp, alliance, or coalition). But the low defenses mean you need to live near your POCOs to make sure you can defend them, especially if they get attacked often.


It takes less than a day to train a new char to anchor POCOs, including corp management and hauler skills. Go for it


People anchoring POCOs in their home area have a strong incentive to either cover all planets, or make sure they don't have NPC COs on them. So those will die over the next month or two. In isolated areas with no activity, they'll probably last a year or more.

Yep that's a known bug, it probably won't make the cut for the initial crucible rollout but should be fixed shortly after.