Ships & Modules

Heretic and Flycatcher can be competent as straight up brawlers, it's just no one fits them that way. And they are overshadowed by the Sabre, which makes them look bad by comparison.



Hawk, Hookbill, Navy Caracal, Cerb, (small gang) Huginn, Cyclone to a lesser extent.

Arguably, Torp Phoon and Torp Raven for ganking caps/supers, the Torp Phoenix and Naglfar as good as any other dreads in the current meta of "siege green and come to Jesus if a cyno goes up".

Certainly fewer ships than turret boats, but it's not wasted SP by any means.

If missiles had these mods there would surely need to exist the negative effect EWar versions also ie explosive radius disruptors just to make it fair

still clueless arent you?
I sense matar ignorance in u

Sure, once every 5 seconds you can nullify one of the bullets (out of the entire barrage) I'm sending at you.

There are no weapon specific defenses vs missiles, aside from mitigating damage via sig/speed. Defenders are the #1 all-time useless forgotten about and that-which-shall-not-be-named topic for CCP Devs ever.

In order for the game to receive any further counter/assist modules for missiles, they need a serious top-down review of mechanics and reworking of current mods.

I was very shocked when we saw them impliment both t2 ammo and missile rigs without ever addressing the subject. Though, the fact missile launchers aren't even mounted objects w/ a launch effect that isn't a decade old is telling to how just ignored missiles have been.

I would like to see a weapon specific boost mods both high slot and low for missiles (ala TP but not the same)
At the same time we need to see flack guns or something weapon system specific to counter.

Wow, you really are a douchetroll. Nevertheless,

Falloff (ie, shooting beyond optimal) results in a decrease of damage to 50% at edge of falloff. Ergo, "minmatar AC shooting at 100km" is like saying "have fun landing more than 50% of your on paper DPS at 100km" to which I reply, cruise ravens land 100% at 120km, assuming their target sticks around long enough for the missiles to actually reach them.

Secondly, this is only really the Machariel or Vargur you're talking about. Most minnie BS you will get 8 + 48 with 800's, and will require range scripted TC's to better it significantly.

Thirdly, you say HAMs are shite. I put forward the fact one can have a 900DPS HAM Loki or a 700DPS HAM Legion. HAM cerbs (with projection rigs) are nasty. Standards you have a Caracal with precisions which will more or less instapop a Dram. Cleearly you are just a brainless unimaginative Drake pilot with a sandy vajayjay.

There is nothing more satisfying to me than tackling a HAM drake in a Cheetah and holding point on him for 11.5 minutes while the gang jumps in and warps to me, blissfully orbiting him at 5km with an AB, sig tanking his flappity-armed flailing with HAMs. If this irritates you, then fly something better than a stupid Drake. There's no need to buff missiles to make up for people's inability to play to their ships strengths.

I like how you quote my post but don't actually respond to anything I say. Do you really think all those ships are bad?