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What would happen if CCP finally nerfed hisec?

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EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#1981 - 2014-02-02 20:50:41 UTC
Page 100 Snipe dedicated to remind everyone that no one is calling for the destruction of highsec and that all people are looking for are minor balancing changes.
Basil Pupkin
Republic Military School
#1982 - 2014-02-02 20:54:05 UTC
EI Digin wrote:
Page 100 Snipe dedicated to remind everyone that no one is calling for the destruction of highsec and that all people are looking for are minor balancing changes.


pffffffft.

We had Odyssey already, which neared on destruction. Next time CCP Fozzie remembers hisec exists would be the end of it.

Being teh freightergankbear automatically puts you below missionbear and minerbear in carebear hierarchy.

If you're about to make "this will make eve un-eve" argument, odds are you are defending some utterly horrible mechanics against a good change.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1983 - 2014-02-02 20:54:53 UTC
Basil Pupkin wrote:
EI Digin wrote:
Page 100 Snipe dedicated to remind everyone that no one is calling for the destruction of highsec and that all people are looking for are minor balancing changes.


pffffffft.

We had Odyssey already, which neared on destruction. Next time CCP Fozzie remembers hisec exists would be the end of it.


Are you a dinsdale alt?

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ashley Eoner
#1984 - 2014-02-02 20:56:12 UTC  |  Edited by: ashley Eoner
EI Digin wrote:
Page 100 Snipe dedicated to remind everyone that no one is calling for the destruction of highsec and that all people are looking for are minor balancing changes.
Except ol baltec and the other goons who want to cut the income of highsec in half at least..

You know "minor balancing changes".


Speaking of which if nullsec is so horrible why do they bother with it? They paint such a lovely picture of highsec (100% secure never die always making huge amounts of isk). So why venture into null where they get killed undocking behind their blue wall while having no ability to make isk at all?
Pinky Hops
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1985 - 2014-02-02 21:30:42 UTC
And we're back in the full circle that the only metric of ISK-making in the entire game is shooting red squares.
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#1986 - 2014-02-02 22:04:38 UTC
This whole thread is a moot point.
The next nerf of high sec is already in the can, and we get to hear about it in a few months.

I mentioned it earlier, and will make the point again.
Jester in his blog weeks ago danced on the edge of the NDA, stating flatly the the direction Eve was headed in was not for everyone, and too bad for the group that did not like it. Recently, he went on about a new "feature" that will anger many.

Given the newest theme of CCP's, that being "the empires are losing their grasp", only someone completely obtuse, or utterly cynical, would say that the group about to get hammered with these changes is null sec.

High sec is about to get slammed, hard.
Very very soon, the cartel owned POCO's will be the least of the invasive attacks by null sec on high sec.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1987 - 2014-02-02 22:06:31 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
This whole thread is a moot point.
The next nerf of high sec is already in the can, and we get to hear about it in a few months.

I mentioned it earlier, and will make the point again.
Jester in his blog weeks ago danced on the edge of the NDA, stating flatly the the direction Eve was headed in was not for everyone, and too bad for the group that did not like it. Recently, he went on about a new "feature" that will anger many.

Given the newest theme of CCP's, that being "the empires are losing their grasp", only someone completely obtuse, or utterly cynical, would say that the group about to get hammered with these changes is null sec.

High sec is about to get slammed, hard.
Very very soon, the cartel owned POCO's will be the least of the invasive attacks by null sec on high sec.


dinsdale tears fofofo!

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Chopper Rollins
hahahlolspycorp
#1988 - 2014-02-02 22:07:02 UTC
Dayng, lost track of the point of all this back when the thread turned into mission runners optimisation tips.
It's too hard to make isk in nullsec? You're bad, and an idiot.
No really, don't even, nobody believes that.
It's too easy to make isk in hisec? So what? Don't like it but can't blame the hisec permapubs.
Also: 100m isk/hr? 120m isk/hr? 500m isk/hr? WOW you're doing PVE for between 4 and 15 dollars an hour. In game money only btw.If you're not in the 3rd world you are wasting your time with that. If you are why are you spending hours making play money?
That gewn saying hisec is too rich is loltastic.


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MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1989 - 2014-02-02 22:08:04 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
This whole thread is a moot point.
The next nerf of high sec is already in the can, and we get to hear about it in a few months.

I mentioned it earlier, and will make the point again.
Jester in his blog weeks ago danced on the edge of the NDA, stating flatly the the direction Eve was headed in was not for everyone, and too bad for the group that did not like it. Recently, he went on about a new "feature" that will anger many.

Given the newest theme of CCP's, that being "the empires are losing their grasp", only someone completely obtuse, or utterly cynical, would say that the group about to get hammered with these changes is null sec.

High sec is about to get slammed, hard.
Very very soon, the cartel owned POCO's will be the least of the invasive attacks by null sec on high sec.

Can you share a link?

Thanks in advance.

Successfully doinitwrong™ since 2006.
Pius Rova
Doomheim
#1990 - 2014-02-02 22:10:48 UTC
If CCP nerfed highsec the people who play exclusively in highsec would just accept the changes and keep playing exclusively in highsec until they get bored and move on to another game, while people in low/null would keep doing what they're doing and making alts to do in highsec what they usually do.... in other words nothing would happen.
Basil Pupkin
Republic Military School
#1991 - 2014-02-02 22:13:02 UTC
Pius Rova wrote:
If CCP nerfed highsec the people who play exclusively in highsec would just accept the changes and keep playing exclusively in highsec until they get bored and move on to another game, while people in low/null would keep doing what they're doing and making alts to do in highsec what they usually do.... in other words nothing would happen.


People moving on is hardly nothing.

Being teh freightergankbear automatically puts you below missionbear and minerbear in carebear hierarchy.

If you're about to make "this will make eve un-eve" argument, odds are you are defending some utterly horrible mechanics against a good change.
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1992 - 2014-02-02 22:19:11 UTC
Pius Rova wrote:
If CCP nerfed highsec the people who play exclusively in highsec would just accept the changes and keep playing exclusively in highsec until they get bored and move on to another game, while people in low/null would keep doing what they're doing and making alts to do in highsec what they usually do.... in other words nothing would happen.


If it's true, then so be it. I'd like to say it won't affect me, since I do most of my playing out of hi sec. But the truth is this will affect everyone. And I think you're right. No one will play to be a victim forever. The gankers will get their ganks and laughs at first. But then it'll be back to crying and whining. Because these things, unfortunately, never end, that is, until the game ends.

Some players will leave, others will adjust. But those that don't wish to be victims of ganks and grief play will learn not to be. In that respect, nothing changes, well, except there are less subscriptions to support the game. But who cares about that these days anyway.

Successfully doinitwrong™ since 2006.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1993 - 2014-02-02 22:27:15 UTC
Chopper Rollins wrote:
Dayng, lost track of the point of all this back when the thread turned into mission runners optimisation tips.
It's too hard to make isk in nullsec? You're bad, and an idiot.
No really, don't even, nobody believes that.
It's too easy to make isk in hisec? So what? Don't like it but can't blame the hisec permapubs.
Also: 100m isk/hr? 120m isk/hr? 500m isk/hr? WOW you're doing PVE for between 4 and 15 dollars an hour. In game money only btw.If you're not in the 3rd world you are wasting your time with that. If you are why are you spending hours making play money?
That gewn saying hisec is too rich is loltastic.




It was a good thread that was going places until you highsec pubbies returned. This is more evidence that highsec pubbies should not be allowed to post and that the ISDs need to get goons into their ranks to clean up this cesspit.

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Pius Rova
Doomheim
#1994 - 2014-02-02 22:30:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Pius Rova
MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:
Some players will leave, others will adjust. But those that don't wish to be victims of ganks and grief play will learn not to be. In that respect, nothing changes, well, except there are less subscriptions to support the game. But who cares about that these days anyway.
I think the power of 23 and the revenue it generates from players who want a separate alt for everything from scamming corporations to wiping their nose is CCP's answer to that.

And I think that is a topic in itself, is it possible that players with too many alts, essentially countering accountability by never having all their actions directly tied to a single identity, might be negatively impacting the game? After all it's easy to gank and grief others when only one of your twenty alts will experience the repercussions and any gameplay related penalties.
EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#1995 - 2014-02-02 22:31:00 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
This whole thread is a moot point.
The next nerf of high sec is already in the can, and we get to hear about it in a few months.
I agree, it should have been locked 100 pages ago because the people with all of the information and who are the most qualified to make the decision have already made it and they aren't going to read through pages upon pages of the same arguments being debunked over and over and over and over again.
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#1996 - 2014-02-02 22:46:13 UTC
MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
This whole thread is a moot point.
The next nerf of high sec is already in the can, and we get to hear about it in a few months.

I mentioned it earlier, and will make the point again.
Jester in his blog weeks ago danced on the edge of the NDA, stating flatly the the direction Eve was headed in was not for everyone, and too bad for the group that did not like it. Recently, he went on about a new "feature" that will anger many.

Given the newest theme of CCP's, that being "the empires are losing their grasp", only someone completely obtuse, or utterly cynical, would say that the group about to get hammered with these changes is null sec.

High sec is about to get slammed, hard.
Very very soon, the cartel owned POCO's will be the least of the invasive attacks by null sec on high sec.

Can you share a link?

Thanks in advance.


http://jestertrek.blogspot.ca/

Peruse some of his posts about the latest CSM Summit.
Everything is heavily NDA'ed, but he makes it clear a game mechanic is changing that is going to anger a lot of people, and that is only a 1st step.

Go back farther about a month to 6 weeks, and buried deep, you will find a post by Jester about how the new direction of Eve is not for everyone who plays now, and they will be left behind.

Add in CCP's crap about the empires and crossing the Rubicon, and it is pretty clear who is losing out here.
Pinky Hops
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1997 - 2014-02-02 22:50:25 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
http://jestertrek.blogspot.ca/

Peruse some of his posts about the latest CSM Summit.
Everything is heavily NDA'ed, but he makes it clear a game mechanic is changing that is going to anger a lot of people, and that is only a 1st step.

Go back farther about a month to 6 weeks, and buried deep, you will find a post by Jester about how the new direction of Eve is not for everyone who plays now, and they will be left behind.

Add in CCP's crap about the empires and crossing the Rubicon, and it is pretty clear who is losing out here.


Yeah well, I for one hope it has to do with some mechanic that forcibly splits up the large nullsec coalitions that have turned all of nullsec into carebear borefest blueville.

Kind of like how large monopolies/oligopolies get split up IRL.

Can you imagine the tears? Shocked
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1998 - 2014-02-02 22:51:23 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:


http://jestertrek.blogspot.ca/

Peruse some of his posts about the latest CSM Summit.
Everything is heavily NDA'ed, but he makes it clear a game mechanic is changing that is going to anger a lot of people, and that is only a 1st step.

Go back farther about a month to 6 weeks, and buried deep, you will find a post by Jester about how the new direction of Eve is not for everyone who plays now, and they will be left behind.

Add in CCP's crap about the empires and crossing the Rubicon, and it is pretty clear who is losing out here.


dinsdale tears fofofo!

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La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1999 - 2014-02-02 22:54:07 UTC
Pinky Hops wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
http://jestertrek.blogspot.ca/

Peruse some of his posts about the latest CSM Summit.
Everything is heavily NDA'ed, but he makes it clear a game mechanic is changing that is going to anger a lot of people, and that is only a 1st step.

Go back farther about a month to 6 weeks, and buried deep, you will find a post by Jester about how the new direction of Eve is not for everyone who plays now, and they will be left behind.

Add in CCP's crap about the empires and crossing the Rubicon, and it is pretty clear who is losing out here.


Yeah well, I for one hope it has to do with some mechanic that forcibly splits up the large nullsec coalitions that have turned all of nullsec into carebear borefest blueville.

Kind of like how large monopolies/oligopolies get split up IRL.

Can you imagine the tears? Shocked


Except the bolded part doesn't actually happen and if it did concord would have to be busted first.

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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#2000 - 2014-02-02 22:54:21 UTC
EI Digin wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
This whole thread is a moot point.
The next nerf of high sec is already in the can, and we get to hear about it in a few months.
I agree, it should have been locked 100 pages ago because the people with all of the information and who are the most qualified to make the decision have already made it and they aren't going to read through pages upon pages of the same arguments being debunked over and over and over and over again.


Then why do you keep posting?
I refrained from posting in this thread for quite some time, thinking it would go away.

But lo and behold the same null sec propagandists keep hammering away.
I thought, what the hell, post some truths, and I can look back on them in a few months and shrug and say, well, I was right, again.

I figure your plan is to keep hammering away with your lies until the changes are announced, and say , "see, all our posting made CCP make game mechanic changes as they saw the light. "

But those summer changes have already been announced to the CSM, so this must be part of your propaganda campaign for the continuation of the high sec nerf with the winter changes.