EVE General Discussion

Looking at this LP calculator I can't help but notice it doesn't take into account the costs of items needed to buy the rewards.

That clearly causes the estimated isk per LP to be wildly out of line with reality.

The changes to cruise missiles put the current Golem a bit ahead of the old-school HML Tengu. I STILL have my carebear tengu, it just has HAMs on it now. Basically, the Golem (or even CNR) alpha's basically everything non-elite below battleship and 2-3 vollies most battleships.

You do loose time to warping, but its rare that you are making more than a jump or two in reality, the difference in travel time isn't that huge 90% of the time. Plus I cheat that most of the time by running missions off of an alts account. That alt is usually in something like a bomber or blockade runner and THOSE things frigging move. So I usually have the mission ship "on station" so to speak more or less perpetually, with depots, I can swap ammo and tank on the fly.

I've no idea why there are hammerheads on there, its pretty much just hobs and warriors in all of the drone bays....medium drones get blapped by basically everything they just aren't worth hauling along.

As to the MJD, you don't need to be accurate, accell gates have a HUGE footprint and pretty much anywhere from 70-110km will land you in easy gate range. Cruise missiles having a +200km range without rigs means that if there isn't a gate you don't have to be accurate at all, just jump away and start spraying.......the only time that sucks is if you fat finger the MJD and jump in the wrong direction, its either slowboat it waiting on the timers or warp off.

So you're using two accounts... That defeats the whole purpose of this thread.


Is anyone else having issues with the forum posting only the draft version and not the actual current post? I keep being forced into going back and editing my posts so they say what I had wanted to post. This post took three tries to get the forum to finally post the version I wanted.

I did mention mediums at one point but before I posted I changed it because I checked and saw that golems can only fly lights. I forgot to copy paste the rest of my rebuttal and I frankly have lost the patience to even try now. Maybe later I'll try to respond to your post properly.

Marauders can hit warp speeds of assault frigates. So you can infact go faster than a HAC today.

That style of mission running is just as viable today after the sentry changes so it is completely relevant.

The sentry nerf is not nearly as bad as people try to make out and you have a lot of other options in the cruiser lineup. Sentries if used correctly will not be getting shot at.

For warp speeds you can make use of the Ascendancy implants and the WS-168 plugin, on the marauder you also have two free rig slots thanks to its massive tank so slap warp speed rigs in there. End result is a battleship with frigate like warp speeds. This is how I got around warp speed issues when flying my Megathrons in cruiser and frigate fleets.

And so, the usual story of goons crying about hisec, ignoring every number with "a million of goons can't be wrong" argument, and pretending it is even possible to nerf hisec harder than it already is.

The problems of goons and hisec aren't as deep as people tend to think. Parties will argue forever until they understand each other, so let's define some terms of agreement first.

RISK - people who know what are they talking about understand hisec risks as wardecs, gankers, and oh-****-logi-disconnected incursion moments. But not goons. Goons have a definition of risk which clearly differs them from people who know what are they talking about - and here's why: they see hisec as an invincible enemy. Should they enter hisec, they'll find an overwhelming numbers of entities who jump a goon on sight, which is hardly surprising, and, in goon terms, such engagements are "zero-risk", despite being a "fair" pvp. Goons define risk as "dare to engage us and you will have over9000 goon dreadnoughts on your assets", and since hisec dwellers laugh in their faces over that threat, engaging goons in hisec is indeed "goon-risk-free". That makes goons imagine all sorts of problems with hisec: There's too many people to shoot them there, Money can be made there at all (imagine that, they are making ISK without thinking about goon dreadnoughts, how dare they!), and they cannot be pounced (except some acts involving jita and unsuspecting haulers, or hulk pilots who weren't even aware goons exist).

To goons, hisec is a giant enemy sov they're not allowed to touch, no wonder they misrationalize it as unsandboxy, risk-free and call hisec dwellers names. This comes from a fact that nullsec doesn't see hisec as opponent on their field, thinking it would crumble should they be allowed to touch it, which is the BEST ARGUMENT EVER that it is nullsec which is overpowered, overflowing with ISK, is a rightful target to some nerfing, rather than overnerfed poor hisec.

tl;dr goons think too much of themselves, hisec needs a buff, nullsec needs a nerf.

The above, ladies and gentlegoons is a terrible grr goons post by a real pubbie carebear. Look upon this example of terrible posting and tinfoilery and avoid the same pitfalls. See how its blood boils and that vein in his head throbs with blind hatred of all things swarm as he furiously types his response to my post. Notice the utter lack of reading and unwillingness to take part in what has become a near none shiptoast thread on income level imbalances.

The majority of people are immune from wardecs.

You can avoid suicide ganks by not stuffing billions upon billions of isk worth of stuff into one ship.

Disconnections are avoided by not having a terrible internet connection, and not engaging in risky content in the first place if you feel there is a chance that you may disconnect.

That leaves me to believe that there is no risk involved with living in highsec.

The kill mails say otherwise.

Don't you have a cap fleet to rebuild or something?

The amount of people who are suicide ganked per day is so low that in the grand scheme of things, it means absolutely nothing.

Think of how many freighters are suicide ganked per day, compared to the amount of freighter trips that are made across highsec daily. Think of the tens of thousands of people who are PvEing right now, compared to the handful of people who get ganked per day. It really is just statistical noise when you think about it.