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Mephice
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2011-11-25 20:08:45 UTC
I propose a Navigation skill that effects how close to a gate you land when on auto pilot. Maybe not 0km but 5 or 10 km by level 5 would be nice. This idea has probably come up a lot but I couldn't find exactly this one anywhere.
Alx Warlord
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2011-11-25 20:58:19 UTC
So endgame haulers will always auto-warp to 0? Is it a problem?

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Mephice
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2011-11-25 21:04:11 UTC
I would take anything ccp will give me. i am just tired of the warp to 15km thing so maybe a skill then so i have to go out of my way to get it.
SGT FUNYOUN
Elysian Space Navy - 1st Fleet
#4 - 2011-11-25 22:17:34 UTC
I think I remember reading somewhere that the reason behind why the AP warp to gate distance is not zero is to try and combat bots. Anything that can delay or potentially disrupt the programming of a bot and make ti not work right or take longer to do its deed is fine by me.

I hate the AP distance too but, it may be a necessary evil.
Nika Dekaia
#5 - 2011-11-25 22:33:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Nika Dekaia
SGT FUNYOUN wrote:
I think I remember reading somewhere that the reason behind why the AP warp to gate distance is not zero is to try and combat bots. Anything that can delay or potentially disrupt the programming of a bot and make ti not work right or take longer to do its deed is fine by me.

I hate the AP distance too but, it may be a necessary evil.

Reason for WTZ: Back then you could only warp to 15km to a gate. So everybody made bookmarks 15km behind the gate (coming from a particular gate) in order to land on 0 on the gate - which resulted in a gazillion bookmarks every player had, especially in 0.0. This made the hamsters cry and CCP introduced WTZ.

And no: Autopilot should not warp to 0. The universe is too small as is. If you want to travel faster, "play the game" - as in "do that tideous work that is needed to travel faster".
Mirima Thurander
#6 - 2011-11-25 23:38:05 UTC
Nika Dekaia wrote:
SGT FUNYOUN wrote:
I think I remember reading somewhere that the reason behind why the AP warp to gate distance is not zero is to try and combat bots. Anything that can delay or potentially disrupt the programming of a bot and make ti not work right or take longer to do its deed is fine by me.

I hate the AP distance too but, it may be a necessary evil.

Reason for WTZ: Back then you could only warp to 15km to a gate. So everybody made bookmarks 15km behind the gate (coming from a particular gate) in order to land on 0 on the gate - which resulted in a gazillion bookmarks every player had, especially in 0.0. This made the hamsters cry and CCP introduced WTZ.

And no: Autopilot should not warp to 0. The universe is too small as is. If you want to travel faster, "play the game" - as in "do that tideous work that is needed to travel faster".



you mean click the gate in the overview and hit W?

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Nika Dekaia
#7 - 2011-11-26 20:03:39 UTC
Mirima Thurander wrote:
you mean click the gate in the overview and hit W?
Yes, that's it. Someone sitting at the keyboard should be able to travel faster than someone beeing afk on autopilot. Simple as that.
Schnoo
The Schnoo
#8 - 2011-11-26 23:30:00 UTC
SGT FUNYOUN wrote:
I think I remember reading somewhere that the reason behind why the AP warp to gate distance is not zero is to try and combat bots. Anything that can delay or potentially disrupt the programming of a bot and make ti not work right or take longer to do its deed is fine by me.

I hate the AP distance too but, it may be a necessary evil.

This is laughable; Anyone who can make a bot in eve should be capable to make something that can WTZ and jump.
I haven't tried them myself as I'm not fond of cheating but there already exist such bots (search "autopilot bot eve" in google).

On the other hand, if a game has bots it just means that there is trivial repetitive content that you must do - that should be the cause for removal, not the other way around.
Goose99
#9 - 2011-11-26 23:33:28 UTC
Schnoo wrote:
SGT FUNYOUN wrote:
I think I remember reading somewhere that the reason behind why the AP warp to gate distance is not zero is to try and combat bots. Anything that can delay or potentially disrupt the programming of a bot and make ti not work right or take longer to do its deed is fine by me.

I hate the AP distance too but, it may be a necessary evil.

This is laughable; Anyone who can make a bot in eve should be capable to make something that can WTZ and jump.
I haven't tried them myself as I'm not fond of cheating but there already exist such bots (search "autopilot bot eve" in google).

On the other hand, if a game has bots it just means that there is trivial repetitive content that you must do - that should be the cause for removal, not the other way around.


^This

The game must remain broken so that fail pirates can have kills.Roll
Gevlin
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2011-11-27 08:44:00 UTC
also there are ships that have high speed as an advantage for auto pilot the skill would make them useless

long live the Minmitar frieghter

Someday I will have the time to play. For now it is mining afk in High sec. In Cheap ships
Merovee
Gorthaur Legion
Imperium Mordor
#11 - 2011-11-27 08:50:39 UTC
It would be nice if I had a skill to turn on my afterburners or MWD when I'm auto-piloting my industrial tp the gate.Blink

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Nika Dekaia
#12 - 2011-11-27 20:59:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Nika Dekaia
narf
Alx Warlord
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2011-11-28 04:12:11 UTC
Gevlin wrote:
also there are ships that have high speed as an advantage for auto pilot the skill would make them useless

long live the Minmitar frieghter


True, if so, they should increases its agility! and it is fixed...

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Misanthra
Alternative Enterprises
#14 - 2011-11-28 06:26:02 UTC
hate ap distance fly the damn ship around.

Or agility/speed rig it. I got some faster afk rides. Marked increase in autopilot run times.

ODII in lows helps too.

Yes you lose cargo room...pick what you want more. Don't work on freighter ofc...deal with it. Or get an orca....this trick works (kind of) on them too.
el alasar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2011-11-29 22:56:36 UTC
having a skill for that might be ok, BUT make it such that with the skill at level 5 the best distance you can get is 12-15km (slightlty better than now). without skills the distance should increase to 20-25km, more than what we have now.

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