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The MorningStar. Syndicate 65
Alexhandr Shkarov The MorningStar. Syndicate Likes received: 65	#61 - 2014-01-25 15:24:16 UTC Sigh. If you're so butthurt about AFK cloaky ships that you insist on beating a dead horse that will not be changed, then yea.. bugger off to Star Citizen. All my posts are on my personal title and should not be confused as me speaking for anyone else.

Arsala

Minmatar Mining and Manufacturing.

Likes received: 8

#62 - 2014-02-02 01:39:25 UTC

I have no interest in low or null sec, I don't hang with bottom feeders, But i love it when someone comes out with a concern or idea that could possible make eve better for more players and yet the "hardcore" players who sit for hours waiting for a 5 minute period of battle which is really nothing more than:

no active player skill (Added to) automated computer controlled turret fire (multiplied by) my time invested skill sets (Divided into) my ISK gear (Equals) win or loss.

and this is supposed to make you hard core.....hahaha

anyhow back on topic.... they scream and yell NO!!! your and idiot your logic is flawed....go home noob, you care-bear go to high sec.

anyway...eventually the corrosive attitude in this game will cause issues as it has in the past. Soon another "eve/WoW" will take the lead and when CCP goes to play the numbers they will have to follow the money, it is a business, and they must turn a profit. Its funny how all these "Expansions" have been geared more toward making game play more care-bear friendly and not more Yarr! Gotta kill 'em all!! play style.

anyhow Don't care, I play my way you play yours, and I promise you now the rager's will rage.

University of Caille Gallente Federation 2,097
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie University of Caille Gallente Federation Likes received: 2,097	#63 - 2014-02-06 22:20:12 UTC Boo Hoo, someone is making my local chat useless. Go live in a wormhole. Founder of Violet Squadron, a small gang NPSI community! Mail me for more information. BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie's Space Mediation Service!

SmilingVagrant

Doomheim

Likes received: 2,724

#64 - 2014-02-08 18:16:39 UTC

Dracvlad wrote:

Baaldor wrote:

Vaju Enki wrote:

Remove cloaked ships from local. Problem solved.

You have all my upvotes sir.

Talking about upvotes you have applied two there, but I notice that when you post you often have a single up vote, I wonder how that is happening, are you really that insecure that you must upvote your own posts with your other account, I noticed it on almost every inane post you have made, you sir are most amusing...

It's because they are making good posts. I realize this is strange to you as you haven't made one yet.


SmilingVagrant Doomheim Likes received: 2,724	#65 - 2014-02-08 18:17:33 UTC Making good posts is detrimental to the game, I hope you enjoy dying ccp when ~vaporware product of this week~ comes out lol

Mallak Azaria

Caldari Provisions

Caldari State

Likes received: 6,614

#66 - 2014-02-13 00:05:05 UTC

Arsala wrote:

Soon another "eve/WoW" will take the lead and when CCP goes to play the numbers they will have to follow the money, it is a business, and they must turn a profit.

You must be new here. Last time CCP tried to follow the money they went & lost a whole bunch of it & had to sack 20% of their staff to recover from that terrible mistake.

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Mallak Azaria

Caldari Provisions

Caldari State

Likes received: 6,614

#67 - 2014-02-13 01:40:54 UTC

SmilingVagrant wrote:

Making good posts is detrimental to the game, I hope you enjoy dying ccp when ~vaporware product of this week~ comes out lol

EVE will finally die when Goat Simulator is released.

Infinity Ziona

Sebiestor Tribe

Minmatar Republic

Likes received: 2,796

#68 - 2014-02-14 05:39:13 UTC

Get rid of null outpost AFK'rs and I'll be happy to listen to the whines about cloaky AFK's. At least we're in space, if the client crashes or net disconnects we uncloak and sit in space for 30 seconds, able to be probed.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

Ecoskii

Penal Servitude

Likes received: 14

#69 - 2014-04-15 23:23:00 UTC

Infinity Ziona wrote:

yeah right - i'll be waiting 23/7 with my porbes out and a dic on standby to catch those 30 secs - only emphasises how dumb the current position Is for that to need to happen...

Brendan Anneto

Gladiators of Rage

Fraternity.

Likes received: 40

#70 - 2014-04-16 18:12:53 UTC

Grace Ishukone wrote:

Unsub?? and when you do can i have your stuff!!

I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your terror comes, When your terror comes like a storm, And your destruction comes like a whirlwind, When distress and anguish come upon you. Proverbs 1:26-27

Dalto Bane

The Scope

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 196

#71 - 2014-04-19 10:32:13 UTC

I have said this every time one of these threads pop up. I'll be more than happy to share this little gem of how to deal with cloak ships in your system. Find out who's cloaky it belongs to, then use that exact same tactic on them in their system for a few days. Trust me when I tell you that 9 out of 10 times they are just as risk adverse as their victim and will back off because they are afraid the big bad cloaky monsters gonna eat them.

Drops Mic

Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 0
endgame767 Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic Likes received: 0	#72 - 2014-04-25 13:52:47 UTC the point is in eve there is always a counter to everything there is no counter for a cloak it should have to use a fuel to keep active it stupid that you cant probe them done either it does need to be fixed

Jessica Duranin

Doomheim

Likes received: 329

#73 - 2014-04-26 10:28:01 UTC

What's with everyone beating on cloaks?
Cloaks on their own are pretty well balanced. Cov OPs capable ships are relatively weak and T1 cloaks have serious penalties attached to them.
In w-space you don't even know if there is a cloaky in your system but it's not a problem because that cloaky usually won't kill you. The fleet in the next system will, but you can put up scouts and see them coming.

In k-space it's the cyno that is the real problem because it effectively allows you to cloak your entire fleet without having it suffer from any of the penalties.
One possible solution for this would be to put a timer on the activation of cynos after a cloak has been used or just make fitting cloaks and cynos mutually exclusive.

Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 48
Karen Galeo Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State Likes received: 48	#74 - 2014-04-26 19:21:42 UTC GOOD GOD. If Null Sec is too dangerous for you, move to high sec. You won't have to worry about ganks, there. Or move to wormholes. The mining is just as good, and nobody can hotdrop you. Author of the Karen 162 blog.

Mag's

Azn Empire

Likes received: 21,366

#75 - 2014-04-27 09:01:33 UTC

endgame767 wrote:

the point is in eve there is always a counter to everything there is no counter for a cloak it should have to use a fuel to keep active it stupid that you cant probe them done either it does need to be fixed

There are counters for the cloak. You can shoot them, decloak them at a set range and stop them recloaking when locked, or remaining at that range.

Just because the counters do not fit your requirements, does not exclude them from being there or that anything needs to be fixed.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

ViRtUoZone

Commie Bunny Pirates

Likes received: 44

#76 - 2014-04-30 00:46:06 UTC | Edited by: Virtuozone

Grace Ishukone wrote:

Title says it all.

The cloaky camper issue has become so bad that there are entire constellations where most people have simply walked away. And they don't go to another constellation of nullsec, or even highsec - they have gone to War Thunder, WoW, and the Star Citizen beta.

EVE Online is being strangled by campy cloakers shutting down systems, and making it impossible to play. Add to that if you do play, you get hotdropped and killed by 5 to 10 black ops battleships, or if you have Pandemic, 2 or 3 Nyx. That would be fine, except having ganked they warp off to safes, cloak, then wait cloaked until they can get a new gank, or jump out.

There is no fight, no epic battle, just a gank then nothing more until another player undocks, gets ganked, and says screw this I'm playing a game that I can *play* not one that consists of everyone afk camping for weeks.

Solutions.

(1) Make cloaking devices require Heavy Water as fuel, which depletes at 25 per minute. Use your cloak wisely, it will run out.

(2) Make it that only Stealth Bombers can recloak while an engagement timer is active. Yes, I mean the 15 minute one. If you jump in your Nyx to gank someone, then they can scan you down and actually fight. PvP might happen, rather than gank and go.

(3) this is actually the most commonly discussed in our null alliance: we all go to Star Citizen the day it launches on the basis that the Devs have painted themselves into a gameplay corner now, such that in effect the Rogue Sneak Attack from World of Warcraft summarizes the state of 'pvp' in EVE Online, and things are simply going to go downhill from here on out for EVE. Do I ant that? No, not really. I like EVE. But I think there is a massive problem with instant alpha damage and hotdrop insta kills.

And don't get me wrong, I own two Redeemers, and mercilessly butcher people too. I just think there is neither challenge nor skill required for a lot of this game now, and the changes (1) and (2) above would improve things a lot.

And if nothing changes ... well there is always Star Citizen. Or Darkfall Unholy Wars, that has better pvp than EVE now, or at least will after the next massive balance patch. So yes CCP, shape up or watch this game wither and die.

And CSM ... do your job. The current suggestions from CCP are going down the track of increased alpha, shorter fight times. All that means is fewer players, because everyone stays in their POS / stations and logs out when you see an enemy scout, because you know the hotdrop is right behind them. With hindsight, adding instant travel was a massive mistake. But the map is so bad in EVE that it was needed ... so EVE is currently in this horrible design mess. At least the cloaking issue can be fixed by the simple and game-consistent mechanic of requiring a cloak to use fuel. That one simple change would make covert pilots need to use their brains ... and if afk all day, would lead to their deaths.

LOL 'And CSM ... do your job.' You've gotta love it when one player isn't getting what they want and suddenly all of CSM isn't doing their job! XD If you're too scared to do whatever it is in what is probably your HOME system because there's ONE 'scary weird name' in local you sir need to go somewhere else until your testicles have fully developed.

The blurred word (because that's a thing now) is another word for male genitalia.

Amadio Family Enterprises 34
Tran Tuyen Amadio Family Enterprises Likes received: 34	#77 - 2014-05-01 23:35:15 UTC Shorter OP: I'm mad when AFK cloakies make me ship spin. If CCP doesn't fix this, I'm gonna go ship spin in Star Citizen instead. PS: can you even spin your ship in Star Citizen, or do you have to settle for just looking at it?

Vartan Sarkisian

Tannhauser C-Beam

Seker Academy

Likes received: 209

#78 - 2014-05-02 16:33:01 UTC

An active cloaky camper is either eyes for a fleet/someone else or after easy kills, if you do not feed them easy kills they will go away. If they are AFK then they cannot hurt you, what you are fearing is what MAY happen, they’ll suddenly uncloak next to you and cyno in a world of hurt. But again, don’t feed them easy kills and they will go away. (generally :))

Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 2
Dont Tasemebro Imperial Academy Amarr Empire Likes received: 2	#79 - 2014-05-02 20:34:52 UTC but when these people leave their PCs on overnight, they burn a lot of electricity, increasing CCP's carbon footprint. You have to think green, CCP. Ban afk campers, save the Earth.