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Burn Apanake - this weekend. RIP Mobile Tractor aggression shenanigans
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Bane Nucleus
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#41 - 2014-02-01 18:26:20 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:


The point is that it wasn't a bug. It wasn't an exploit. It was working as intended and had undergone play testing on sisi. The bears cry about it and its "fixed".



The ESS underwent testing as well, only to find out it announces your presence in local if anchored on a wormhole. That isn't a bug or an exploit, but it sure as hell affects the wormhole playstyle. Thankfully, it is being "fixed".

Now, I can't relate to mission runners in the slighest, but I don't see this affecting anyones gameplay negatively. You can still get them to aggress if they are stupid, or just flat out gank them. It just means you have to be less lazy about it.

Lastly, I hope this event sends some bears up in flames Twisted

No trolling please
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#42 - 2014-02-01 18:31:49 UTC
The gank fittings I contracted over are a gift to high sec that I had sitting around. There is no need for repayment. Remove me from the payout equation please.

While high sec missioners think this is some whine thread, let's be clear, gankers everywhere just want an excuse to throw a party and have some fun. If that means that you lose your ship, your pod, your loot, or if you have to relocate or not mission for a day, keep in mind that it's all for the greater good.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Anslo
Scope Works
#43 - 2014-02-01 19:06:17 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
The gank fittings I contracted over are a gift to high sec that I had sitting around. There is no need for repayment. Remove me from the payout equation please.

While high sec missioners think this is some whine thread, let's be clear, gankers everywhere just want an excuse to throw a party and have some fun. If that means that you lose your ship, your pod, your loot, or if you have to relocate or not mission for a day, keep in mind that it's all for the greater good.


Was that what you had in mind when you published people's pictures just to humiliate them? I mean if it was, Goons must have been confused as they were right quick to shut you down.

Just sayin'.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#44 - 2014-02-01 19:20:24 UTC
You and many others had a pretty good time til someone pulled the puppet strings and told you to be upset.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Anslo
Scope Works
#45 - 2014-02-01 19:22:02 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
You and many others had a pretty good time til someone pulled the puppet strings and told you to be upset.

I never approved of what you did. You or other gankbears. Don't flatter yourself thinking I'd ever smile at your ****.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#46 - 2014-02-01 20:17:46 UTC
I stand corrected, a search of our names together in Google shows many of your tears.

You are of course still welcome, along with the rest of community, to come blow stuff up for free.

Warning: gankee tears are highly addictive.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Anslo
Scope Works
#47 - 2014-02-01 20:21:30 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
I stand corrected, a search of our names together in Google shows many of your tears.

You are of course still welcome, along with the rest of community, to come blow stuff up for free.

Warning: gankee tears are highly addictive.

I prefer ganker tears.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#48 - 2014-02-01 20:25:00 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
I stand corrected, a search of our names together in Google shows many of your tears.

You are of course still welcome, along with the rest of community, to come blow stuff up for free.

Warning: gankee tears are highly addictive.

I prefer ganker tears.


Ok, then I propose that you show up in an officer fit Nestor and troll us when we can't blow it up while you're afk on a gate.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Anslo
Scope Works
#49 - 2014-02-01 20:27:20 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
I stand corrected, a search of our names together in Google shows many of your tears.

You are of course still welcome, along with the rest of community, to come blow stuff up for free.

Warning: gankee tears are highly addictive.

I prefer ganker tears.


Ok, then I propose that you show up in an officer fit Nestor and troll us when we can't blow it up while you're afk on a gate.

Highsec's not my scene. I'll go get my officer fit shield tanked archon though. That should be better.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Donovan Draknevov
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#50 - 2014-02-02 00:27:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Donovan Draknevov
Erotica 1 wrote:
The gank fittings I contracted over are a gift to high sec that I had sitting around. There is no need for repayment. Remove me from the payout equation please.

While high sec missioners think this is some whine thread, let's be clear, gankers everywhere just want an excuse to throw a party and have some fun. If that means that you lose your ship, your pod, your loot, or if you have to relocate or not mission for a day, keep in mind that it's all for the greater good.



If we contract you some gank fits, can you double them? :p

I'm unfortunately stuck at work for the time being, so have fun all!

Trust in the Rust
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
#51 - 2014-02-02 08:52:14 UTC
How did the event go? I'm asking for a friend.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#52 - 2014-02-02 09:49:47 UTC
Ria Nieyli wrote:
How did the event go? I'm asking for a friend.


Didn't meet my goals of ~20b in damage done, but we did a lot more than we took. Turned out our -10 players weren't of any real use at all so our numbers were lower.

It seems that some minor nullsec corp wanted to mess with us and they had someone in our fleet. My suspicion was that they wanted to protect mission botting alts - as soon as I told people in fleet to look out for missioners in their corp and report any that seemed to be botting, all of their missioners fled the area and their instalock station camp followed just behind. Not enough proof of botting to forward anything to CCP (I only report bots when I'm 90% sure, not 60% as was the case here), but it was interesting that the main resistance came from 0.0 players who appear to generate income from highsec mission bots.

One white knight CONCORDOOKENED himself attempting to smartbomb a flashy red Catalyst that was providing an armed escort for a pubbie Venture, which was entertaining. Sadly their foray into suicide ganking did not achieve a satisfactory result for anyone, as the Venture escaped. One gankee (at least) had their eyes opened to what EVE can be, and is now interested in getting involved in the New Order.

It's also abundantly clear that Marauders are totally overpowered in highsec, after a marauder managed to active tank something like 29 catalysts at once. (We did know in advance that the marauder in question was officer fit, and the character name has been forwarded to better resourced ganking operations for euthanisation).


All in all, the biggest success was forcing highseccers to fight back and watching them actually do so, in some cases quite effectively. EVE in Apanake was not a single player game which was a change from the usual.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
#53 - 2014-02-02 10:11:44 UTC
Good effort. Now my friend feels bad because he missed it.
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#54 - 2014-02-02 11:53:42 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
T2 marauders


Yeah , I was wondering about that.

Properly fit and flown, I have seen a Golem tank the damage output of a fairly gunned up Medium POS, requiring absolutely zero assistance from logi.

Yeah, it was in Bastion mode...........

Also saw Russians pop a Kronos running SOE l4's in Lanngisi with 17 arty Thrashers, so YMMV.

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#55 - 2014-02-02 11:57:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Mike Adoulin
Bait'er De'Outlier wrote:
To put it in perspective for the detractors of this event:

1. To not go into limited engagement the players had to set their drone settings correctly. That's it pretty much for them not to get ganked. It's really simple step, it's not complicated.

When surprised by their ignorance of how something works rather than learn how to properly use something new in the game it was easier to complain until the thing they don't like gets nerfed by the game developer annoying people who liked it the way it was.

In my opinion ignorance followed by outrage brought on by their own ignorance should not triumph over people taking the time to learn and use the game as the designers intended.

2. If running ganks is how a group wants to play the game - whether for protest or fun (or both) then be grateful that they warned you it was coming by posting it here.

Aaaaaaand now to go that empty top belt and mine while making dinner....


What he said.

Also, as has been repeatedly pointed out to the mentally handicapped, the MTU mechanics were not a bug, or an exploit. They were INTENTIONALLY designed to work that way, BY CCP.

Now that CCP has shown the usual lack of backbone, I await the inevitable reimbursement petitions by all the morons that lost their Orca's because of it.......

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Chiva Uta
State War Academy
Caldari State
#56 - 2014-02-02 13:58:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Chiva Uta
I love pirate/ganker tears, they're sweeter than carebears.... And even 'mission bots' it there is such a stupid thing! When miners made a bag full of isk they were bots, now missioners are making stacks they are bots... You should listen you yourselvesRoll!

Here's an idea why not let each person play the game THEY pay for instead of trying to make them play something you want them to play.

Please, please, please post some sort of clever rebuttal trying to make out that I'm part of a pigeon hole you believe I playBlink!

lolz
Sentinel 7
Signal One.
#57 - 2014-02-02 14:17:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Sentinel 7
Chiva Uta wrote:
And even 'mission bots' it there is such a stupid thing!


Yes, yes there is. Get your head out your ass and open your eyes. (In that order, or it's unpleasant)

Chiva Uta wrote:
When miners made a bag full of isk they were bots, now missioners are making stacks they are bots... You should listen you yourselvesRoll!


It's not money making that people have the problem with.

Chiva Uta wrote:
Here's an idea why not let each person play the game THEY pay for instead of trying to make them play something you want them to play.


If the people were actually playing it would be fine. But automated spaceships is bad m'kay.

Big mouth for a guy hiding behind a two month old NPC corp alt...
Sniper Wolf18
Aggressive Diplomacy
#58 - 2014-02-02 16:16:42 UTC
Chiva Uta wrote:
I love pirate/ganker tears, they're sweeter than carebears.... And even 'mission bots' it there is such a stupid thing! When miners made a bag full of isk they were bots, now missioners are making stacks they are bots... You should listen you yourselvesRoll!

Here's an idea why not let each person play the game THEY pay for instead of trying to make them play something you want them to play.

Please, please, please post some sort of clever rebuttal trying to make out that I'm part of a pigeon hole you believe I playBlink!

lolz

Oh hey, look, it's another person who won't post with their main.
FREYAdie2te
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2014-02-02 17:03:35 UTC  |  Edited by: FREYAdie2te
some of those 0.0 players don't have bots, they are the bots themselves Blink

but i have to say, their KI is one of the best i have seen in EvE.

they fly missions together,
read their mails,
check the forums,
meet up for strategy discussions,
have fun fitting their ships,
argue about fittings,
watch for ganker,
select a station,
form up and toast each other,
start shooting,
have a lot of fun seeing some bloody gankers go boom,
regroup,
and so one....

oh and don't let us forget the infiltrating stuff, our bots have their eyes everywhere Blink

greetings

your friendly bot next door

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21686985
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21683044
Xiderpunk
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#60 - 2014-02-02 17:10:16 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Ria Nieyli wrote:
How did the event go? I'm asking for a friend.


Didn't meet my goals of ~20b in damage done, but we did a lot more than we took. Turned out our -10 players weren't of any real use at all so our numbers were lower.

It seems that some minor nullsec corp wanted to mess with us and they had someone in our fleet. My suspicion was that they wanted to protect mission botting alts - as soon as I told people in fleet to look out for missioners in their corp and report any that seemed to be botting, all of their missioners fled the area and their instalock station camp followed just behind. Not enough proof of botting to forward anything to CCP (I only report bots when I'm 90% sure, not 60% as was the case here), but it was interesting that the main resistance came from 0.0 players who appear to generate income from highsec mission bots.

One white knight CONCORDOOKENED himself attempting to smartbomb a flashy red Catalyst that was providing an armed escort for a pubbie Venture, which was entertaining. Sadly their foray into suicide ganking did not achieve a satisfactory result for anyone, as the Venture escaped. One gankee (at least) had their eyes opened to what EVE can be, and is now interested in getting involved in the New Order.

It's also abundantly clear that Marauders are totally overpowered in highsec, after a marauder managed to active tank something like 29 catalysts at once. (We did know in advance that the marauder in question was officer fit, and the character name has been forwarded to better resourced ganking operations for euthanisation).


All in all, the biggest success was forcing highseccers to fight back and watching them actually do so, in some cases quite effectively. EVE in Apanake was not a single player game which was a change from the usual.


Amusing, looks like some spin here.

TL;DR

1. Oh no, these highsec bears shoot back!
2. Marauders are overpowered because we can't kill them.
3. Spies and white knights are griefing us, it's not fair, they must be bots and I would like to find a way to report them, help CCP!

Personally I don't live in highsec and love blowing up ships and getting blown up myself. You gankers should try it sometime, I promise you it is more fun when the targets shoot back.