Wormholes

With the recent influx of farmers to wormhole space, change to industry, and the disbanding of T3 based doctrines in nullsec; the price of nano-ribbons and the price of capital escalations have dropped dramatically.

Sitting at a pretty 850mil just a month ago, each escalated site is worth ~600mil at the time of writing.

I apoligize if I am a bit out of line here. However after all the smug comments you made a day ago about folks crying about PvP, you come in with what I am assuming is a whine cause you are not making as much isk as you were a months go. You kinda leave me wondering what your punch line is?

Honestly I am still kinda new to wormholes but the isk here is much better than anything else I have done. It more than supports the PvP I enjoy.

I care so little Keith.

Keith's one of the few members of our corp who cares about PvE.

He's also one of the damn loudest....

Lol.

This has more to do with T3's being garbage and nobody flying them outside of wormholes. Just be glad there are sleeper tags that give guaranteed isk.

Lets see. We used to have the following large uses for T3's:

Wormholes
Tengu/Loki fleets in 0.0
T3 Links
Tengu Mission runners

After meta change in 0.0 and nerfs to heavy missiles as well as T3 warfare links, we now have the following large uses:

Wormholes.

I suspect this is the real issue...

Edit: Also I lol'd at this part:


Seriously? 10 minutes to do a quad escalation with 10 pilots, you need to work on pve m8

Dunno about c5/c6 systems but C4's are heavily farmed now.

if you take longer than 1 siege cycle to finish an escalation your doing it wrong :P

Most of the ISK in escalations comes from blue loot, otherwise known as sleeper tags. Isk/h is quite fixed in that regard. Escalation battleships drop less nanoribbons than the usual site spawn, so I don't really see a major decrease in ISK/site since more farmers moved to w-space.

Even if you managed to manipulate the t3 market enough to bring nano prices back up to 7 or so million, you still wouldn't get much more than 800M/site on average (about 700 now).

As for ISK/h and all that crap... if you want constant income rat in nullsec or do incursions, escalations can only be done once per day per hole, and you need a decent fleet to do them properly (a.k.a. not in 20min/site). You get to split the juicy loot in a bunch of shares, and ISK/h changes every day - and could get lower than other forms of producing ISK, as well as being more dangerous (depending on where you live, of course). All in all, escalations eventually get as boring as incursions and/or ratting, complaining about ISK/h is pointless, since it's still probably the most ISK/h you'll make, unless you hold ISK for supercap sales and/or rob people and/or scam people. It will also never go below 590M/site since that is how much the blue loot nets you.

well are you running the entire site? or just killing the escalation and then leaving?

Sorry, you're right.