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@ CCP. A suggestion: Less "white-power-fantasy", more pragmatic......
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Publius Valerius
AirGuard
LowSechnaya Sholupen
#1 - 2014-01-30 22:43:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Publius Valerius
Hi to all, sorry for any misspellings.

My goal: Less "racial-power-fantasy", more "pragmatic power-fantasy". As racism and social darwinism are way to modern cleavages for the Empire and Kingdom. Thats why, I would love to make a suggestion about one of the wiki article:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Talk:Slavery


Quote:

In this section I would love to have a change: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Slavery#Justifications

From this line:
"Instead, the Kingdom tends to take a relatively simplistic view that, as Amarr, they are superior to other races and thus have the God-given right to enslave them as they see fit. "

To one of the two:
- "Instead, the Kingdom tends to take a relatively simplistic view that says: "If we can, we will do."
- "Instead, the Kingdom tends to take a relatively simplistic view, If they can, they will do."


Reasons:
- It isnt mention that the Khanids are soical darwinists or racists for that matter.
- It would also make more sense in the context of the text. As the text goes one: " Outsiders see little difference between the Kingdom and the Empire in this regard, believing that the Kingdom is merely more honest about things. This has led to lingering tensions between the two Amarr nations, however, even as the two have grown closer in recent years."
- Would give the Kingdom a realpolitical tendency. As well as less problems in the Caldari-Khanid culture connection.
- Less racial "power-fantasy" from ISD CKang aka CCP Eterne, more pragmatic "power-fantasy" from Publius Big smile.




Secondly I would love to have a change on this page: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Talk:Modern_Era_of_the_Amarr_Empire
CCP Abraxes had already change another page which had the same error: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Talk:Khanid_II

As well as a final comment about the Kingdom and Empire relations: As I have pointed out here: http://wiki.eveonline.com/wikiEN/index.php?title=Publius_Valerius_%28Character%29&oldid=170067

Quote:
My 50 cents: (1) Khanid II recognized Jamyl I as the rightful Empress of the Amarr and dropped any claim he might have on her throne. AND Jamyl I recognized Khanid II as the rightful King of the Khanid Kingdom and dropped any claim she might had on his throne.
(2) The Khanid Kingdom and the Amarr Empire now enjoy a mutual defense pact.
(3) The Khanid Family has a seat on the Privy Council. So the kingdom has gain a "voice opportunity", without endanger the survival of the empire. Jamly, the empire, has gain former Court Chamberlain Dochuta Karsoth.



One CCP employee mention it in Vegas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dRlgzE_7FI&list=PLldrBIEnJ5hPv95uN75sGS_Kwlm7ezUWD&index=1
that CCP wants the game as real as it gets and with few as possible errors (aka violate own lore and laws of nature as few as possible).

I would love to have those classes ingame. See here:

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/376566/march-07-2011/joshua-foer
Publius Valerius
AirGuard
LowSechnaya Sholupen
#2 - 2014-01-31 05:11:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Publius Valerius
/bump for "racial-power-fantasy" Big smile

I would love to have those classes ingame. See here:

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/376566/march-07-2011/joshua-foer
Publius Valerius
AirGuard
LowSechnaya Sholupen
#3 - 2014-02-01 07:12:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Publius Valerius
/bump

Quote:

In fact, the kingdom takes slavery even further than the empire. The Amarr Empire uses almost exclusively Minmatar and Ealur slaves, but the kingdom, denied many of their traditional slave sources, take slaves wherever they can find them.
http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/the-khanid-kingdom/


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In other words: So that everybody understands what my problem is:
Amarr: RELIGION IS THE LEGITIMATION OF SLAVERY
See: https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Slavery#Justification
and for some: RELIGION IS THE LEGITIMATION OF RACISM, both in case is religion the core.

Khanid: RACISM IS THE LEGITIMATION OF SLAVERY
See: https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Slavery#Justifications

Its alittle of for me. I would say paradigm should be RELIGION IS THE LEGITIMATION OF SLAVERY in both cases... how CCP works this out is up to them. My suggestion would be:


Khanid: (pragmatic) RELIGION IS THE LEGITIMATION OF SLAVERY
and for some:(pragmatic) RELIGION IS THE LEGITIMATION OF RACISM, both in case is religion the core.

I would love to have those classes ingame. See here:

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/376566/march-07-2011/joshua-foer
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#4 - 2014-02-05 21:35:48 UTC
This is the same CCP that, after over a decade of being in business, only allowed us to have black characters outside of the Brutor tribe within the last year or so, so I wouldn't hold your breath. Sad

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0