EVE General Discussion

I might be wrong here, but I don't think EVE as a game does differentiate between owning ship and possesing ship. So if u posses a ship (board it) u become an owner and the guy who owned it before u does not retain his ownership right.

Well in RL there is difference between "owning" and "possesing". But since player boarded the ship he becomes the owner. After he leaves it, the game rememers him as owner. Thats why there cant be another guys u refer to as "actual owner" who jumps into the ship. All previous owners are not recognized by the game, hence the situation u described should not be possible.

^ THAT is what happened. That's what we're confused about. Freighter goes flashy, freighter is locked, pilot ejects, new pod boards a ship that several people have targeted.

Being able to board a locked ship that is not yours should not be possible, if there is a bug causing that to be possible than I would agree this is an exploit. Otherwise I suspect that something else occurred here that you simply didn't notice. Impossible to say though - without video documentation of the incident, this is all here-say anyways.

The intention of the suspect timer when looting wrecks is to allow other users to shoot down pilots whom attempt to escape with the wreck. By switching ships they are eluding the ability to be shot down with the loot, thus it is an exploit by definition.

Most exploits can easily be argued with, "well, that's EVE." "That's how it is." "That's how it's designed". This misses the point entirely, which is that the design itself is flawed. The design does not meet the intention.

When a logistics repairs a suspect, the logistics also goes suspect. Thus we can conclude the intention of the game mechanics is so assisting suspects gives you a suspect flag. Moving the entirety of the loot for them - which was the reason they went suspect to begin with - is far more an assistance than even logistics is.

Can you confirm if you lost lock on the Tengu when he ejected or if you kept lock on the now empty ship.

Did you eject then have another pilot jump in? or just you eject then jump back in?

That's a good question but odds are good that locks would be on pretty fast - it's a freighter and locking one of those is *NOT* a long process even in a battleship.

From other reports of not being able to board ships while locks were on them, I'd guess that this *MIGHT* be the issue - or it's a very funky bug more specific to freighters than generic or we'd have heard about it long before this.

Ownership is transferred to the person who boards the ship so the owner ejecting can re-board but before whatever caused this glitch no one else could if the ship is targeted.


Edit:
Now this being changed could make sense though, I did notice before the patch on TQ that on singularity there is now a cool down effect after using your weapons that keeps you from being able to eject. Might only apply in player vs player aggression situations, but the notification specifically mentioned 'recent use of weapons' not recent aggression.

I always seen the fact that you could not board a targeted vessel as a shortcut to making sure concord destroyed the vessel in cases where criminal flags were gained. As per the rule that you must always lose the ship to concord in such cases and to avoid the loss of ship is an exploit. Now though it seems the game locks the pilot in the ship long enough that the ship is dead before they can eject and someone else grab the ship.

As there is no mention of a change in the patch notes petitioning this as a possible exploit and bug reporting it as others have suggested is something you should do. And as another has suggested use your words and be more specific and outline the entire incident. And for the love of veldspar stop using the word locked and use 'targeted' or 'target locked' instead. The doors on them thare ships do not have locks (entirely irresponsible of the manufacturers considering the neighborhood we all live in, thick as it is with thieves).