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Freight container duration removed, downtime removal
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Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#1 - 2014-01-31 17:14:02 UTC
Correct me if I am wrong but freight containers are disappearing every day now.

I have had my enormous freight containers in 3 different systems in safespots for over half a year and they werent even refreshed every month.
In one of the patches since 1.1 (last week or so) you changed the properties of these containers so they disappear way faster (within a day or less).

What I assume is that you tried to fix MTU drone aggro (which was totally fair tbh) and when doing it by modding drones screwed up salvage drone autosalvage you decided to change properties of deployables.

What gives.

Can we have freight containers in space back or is this intentional.

Another "feature"?

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#2 - 2014-01-31 17:20:37 UTC
This is a part of the ESS mechanic. It's fine and you should embrace it. Cool

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Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#3 - 2014-01-31 17:26:35 UTC
This is part of the CCP mechanic.
Zenith Gravit
LionGate Enterprises
#4 - 2014-01-31 19:43:08 UTC
How is this part of the ESS mechanic?
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#5 - 2014-01-31 19:54:24 UTC
Arya Regnar wrote:
I have had my enormous freight containers in 3 different systems in safespots for over half a year and they werent even refreshed every month.



Oh, so you had a beneficial bug that let your containers stay without maintainance, and are upset that with the patch they fixed it?


Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#6 - 2014-01-31 20:17:43 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Arya Regnar wrote:
I have had my enormous freight containers in 3 different systems in safespots for over half a year and they werent even refreshed every month.



Oh, so you had a beneficial bug that let your containers stay without maintainance, and are upset that with the patch they fixed it?




I don't really use freights or containers in space all that much, but I do have to question why a giant metal box floating in an environment with no oxygen would degrade and dissolve in the span of a day.

Doesn't seem to make sense from a gameplay standpoint or a reality standpoint.
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#7 - 2014-01-31 21:47:42 UTC
You know what I used the thing for?
To suspect flag myself by "stealing from it".

Such can (if it isn't yours) will flag you for taking from it even if guy is in your corp/fleet/both.
It's handy. Wouldn't cry if there was a simple way to get suspect flag at a moments notice.

Not gona cry like this either.
I just DON'T like stealth nerfs/fixes/patches/updates/slash everything you can call that.

PATCHNOTES do you use them CCP?
Slap my cheek if I missed this announcement, to me it seems like all the orca nerfs in the past.

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Styx Titan
Doomheim
#8 - 2014-01-31 21:56:46 UTC
I also have a post regarded to this. If it was a faulty style of game play ccp should have informed us about the upcoming change. As it was I and others were using these containers in many different ways and I'm sure many others in WH lost a $hit ton more than I did. And how about partisan activities way out in 0.0 where you don't hold sov? Just seems removing this makes the little guy that more ineffective.

CCP dev please post in this thread.
The Legendary Soldier
United.
#9 - 2014-01-31 22:22:59 UTC
Arya Regnar wrote:


PATCHNOTES do you use them CCP?


They do, but they never seem to get the unintended consequences in :p

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Billy McCandless
Zacharia Explorations Group
#10 - 2014-01-31 22:25:33 UTC
y u mak duplickit poast

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#11 - 2014-01-31 22:27:38 UTC
Kuronaga wrote:

I don't really use freights or containers in space all that much, but I do have to question why a giant metal box floating in an environment with no oxygen would degrade and dissolve in the span of a day.

Doesn't seem to make sense from a gameplay standpoint or a reality standpoint.


Neither does warp drive or planets that don't actually move, but there you go.

Mr Epeen Cool
MaligoLibens
Bath Salt Abusers
#12 - 2014-01-31 22:38:47 UTC
working as intended, not their problem if you lost millions.
Cheng Musana
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2014-01-31 23:11:34 UTC
Use a mobile depot. Problem fixed.
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#14 - 2014-02-02 00:22:20 UTC
MaligoLibens wrote:
working as intended, not their problem if you lost millions.

I lost 4 enormous freight containers testing this stuff and I lost 15 cap 800s.
I can replace it in 20 seconds.

That's not the point.

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Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-02-02 02:39:41 UTC
Wow! Hundreds of billions have simply vanished...

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Manny Moons
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-02-02 05:24:47 UTC
Arya Regnar wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong but freight containers... ...deployables.


Freight containers are not deployables. When dumped in space they are an eyesore and a hazard to navigation. Whenever I am flying an empty freighter and see one, I scoop it as a public service. (You receive no suspect flag for scooping a freight container. Taking items from one, yes, but not scooping the whole thing.) Sometimes after I scoop one I discover it is full of ore. Sometimes people convo me and express displeasure at my selfless attempt to clean up their space garbage. I guess you really can't please everyone.
MaligoLibens
Bath Salt Abusers
#17 - 2014-02-02 10:15:49 UTC  |  Edited by: MaligoLibens
it could just be me, but i think jetcans now last till downtime aswell. Shocked i had one last atleast 4 hours before i looted it.


update: a jetcan lasted through downtime. i think maybe jetcans and freight containers switched roles.
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#18 - 2014-02-04 17:10:52 UTC
Manny Moons wrote:
Arya Regnar wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong but freight containers... ...deployables.


Freight containers are not deployables. When dumped in space they are an eyesore and a hazard to navigation. Whenever I am flying an empty freighter and see one, I scoop it as a public service. (You receive no suspect flag for scooping a freight container. Taking items from one, yes, but not scooping the whole thing.) Sometimes after I scoop one I discover it is full of ore. Sometimes people convo me and express displeasure at my selfless attempt to clean up their space garbage. I guess you really can't please everyone.


The ID grouping in system categorization might be similar.
I don't know but what other reason for the recent features if not this?

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Natassia Krasnoo
R3D SHIFT
#19 - 2014-02-04 18:42:14 UTC
Let me introduce you to CCP patches...when you absolutely, positively have to screw up even the most mundane of game mechanics! Except no substitutes!
Billy McCandless
Zacharia Explorations Group
#20 - 2014-02-04 18:48:22 UTC
"ohnoes an storm"

"must bee Ghod patching yoonivers"

"dam him"

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