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The ESS has to go

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Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#121 - 2014-01-31 00:35:40 UTC
James Arget wrote:
Dmitry Wizard wrote:
James Arget wrote:
Winthorp wrote:
Wow James it has been almost a year since the WH community has heard from you or seen you post on forums, are elections this close already?

I appear in times of great strife.



To agree with the strife? tsk tsk tsk

James Arget wrote:
Right now I'm most likely going to advise CCP to add the same anchor distance limitation as exists for stations. Other options would be to disallow anchoring in wspace entirely, or to turn off the local broadcasting, but I like the fact that I can drop one at the star and anyone dumb enough to warp to it has just announced themselves in local.


This is why I don't post much.Ugh


Why? because all you can do is regurgitate the bleeding obvious fixes which are apparent to absolutely everyone, and run the line that just because something is in game means "emergent gameplay"? Or maybe you have nothing to contribute to any debate at all.

Triple-web vindi bumps were in-game and a tactic emerged which allowed a naughty boy to gank jump freighters on undock.

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Sephira Galamore
Inner Beard Society
#122 - 2014-01-31 00:49:28 UTC
I think the ability to anchor POSes in wspace should be removed. That was never intended by the devs and who needs emergent gameplay anyways.
Chancey Pants
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#123 - 2014-01-31 00:58:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Chancey Pants
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=310922&p=2

Was it really a mistake, or were they just waiting for us to completely rage?

Hate to stir a pot that ha settled but this issue was stated in post number 5 on Jan 8.
Styledatol
Stellar Forge Industries
#124 - 2014-01-31 03:45:16 UTC
So much moaning and bitching, I could make a boat and sail in the sea of tears.
If the existence of the ESS kills your pvping ability in wspace, then you should probably ragequit eve because you're terrible at this game.
Wspace pilots used to be hardy group of people who choose the hardest possible life in eve, laughing at hardship and danger. Now we have a bunch of whiny bitches who cry like nullbears when a bugged release, that barely affects wspace pvp, takes them out of their comfort zone.

HTFU
Keith Planck
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#125 - 2014-01-31 04:38:34 UTC
This is the most tears I've seen from PvP players in a LOOOONG time.

Delicious...

♞
Freddie Merrcury
Fukushima Daiichi Electric Power Co.
#126 - 2014-01-31 05:30:04 UTC
James Arget wrote:


This is why I don't post much.Ugh


Is it perhaps because you don't do much?

I been kicked out of better homes than this.
Proclus Diadochu
Mar Sarrim
Red Coat Conspiracy
#127 - 2014-01-31 05:55:34 UTC
Freddie Merrcury wrote:
James Arget wrote:


This is why I don't post much.Ugh


Is it perhaps because you don't do much?


dis' gonna be good

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Winthorp
#128 - 2014-01-31 06:00:34 UTC
Proclus Diadochu wrote:
Freddie Merrcury wrote:
James Arget wrote:


This is why I don't post much.Ugh


Is it perhaps because you don't do much?


dis' gonna be good


The gif i have been looking for.
Tyrant Scorn
#129 - 2014-01-31 06:17:06 UTC
MrOogie Boogie wrote:
if there is a gm or a dev on sisi, you should be able to load up a hauler with what you want to test, or a probe ship and asked to be moved to a specific WH system. They move people around empire space all the time, if you had a valid reason it should not be to difficult to nicely ask to be moved to system j111111 or whatever


They don't... Trust me, I tried and asked and they weren't very polite about it either.

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Janeway84
Insane's Asylum
#130 - 2014-01-31 09:54:36 UTC
Tyrant Scorn wrote:
MrOogie Boogie wrote:
if there is a gm or a dev on sisi, you should be able to load up a hauler with what you want to test, or a probe ship and asked to be moved to a specific WH system. They move people around empire space all the time, if you had a valid reason it should not be to difficult to nicely ask to be moved to system j111111 or whatever


They don't... Trust me, I tried and asked and they weren't very polite about it either.


Maybe CCP needs to pay them more in Red bull? Big smile
CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#131 - 2014-01-31 13:44:49 UTC
Just an additional note on this; the GM team will be removing any ESSes that have been anchored next to a wormhole and returning them to the deployer if they are reported. This will hopefully deal with the issue until the fix mentioned by Fozzie can be deployed.

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Random Woman
Very Professional Corporation
#132 - 2014-01-31 14:17:03 UTC
CCP Eterne wrote:
Just an additional note on this; the GM team will be removing any ESSes that have been anchored next to a wormhole and returning them to the deployer if they are reported. This will hopefully deal with the issue until the fix mentioned by Fozzie can be deployed.



I'd rather shoot it dead, before giving em their lolcal and their money back, so no thank you :)
Kynric
Sky Fighters
Rote Kapelle
#133 - 2014-01-31 14:59:19 UTC
These seem made for anchoring at a poco...

I am still looking for the rubicon. Whatever it is we are crossing has yet to wet my ankles.
SalubriousSky Rinah
Cryptic Spear
#134 - 2014-01-31 15:01:27 UTC  |  Edited by: SalubriousSky Rinah
Desmond Strickler wrote:
Keith Planck wrote:
Dmitry Wizard wrote:
thats not the point keith. its a 30 km bubble and broadcasts who you are in local.... its broken



It is the point...
It's cheaper and more efficient to use a real bubble and listen to the hole on an alt
It's 25mil and cant be recovered so it's not like you can move them from wormhole to wormhole.


It's just a slightly more convenient and expensive but less effective method of watching for Gankers.

If those bears you tried to Gank had a large bubble and a scout on the hole you wouldn't have killed them.


You won't see these on holes any more frequently then you'll see large bubbles.


So what exactly is it breaking?


Because human error is more common than system error. Sometimes people won't catch the wh sound, but you will NEVER miss a ESS broadcast in local. It gives ratters/miners 100% security.


The ESS won't help anyone in their wh when a PvP raiding fleet rolls their static and warps straight to their mining fleet as they failed to notice the extra sig on d scan because of human error.
James Arget
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
#135 - 2014-01-31 16:04:35 UTC
After talking with CCP Soniclover, the ESS will be unusable in wspace come Monday.

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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#136 - 2014-01-31 16:58:10 UTC
Thank you for fixing this Jimmy. You are awesome!
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#137 - 2014-01-31 17:40:15 UTC
Well CCp accidentaly invented an useful new deployable the Mobile Early warnign Receiver. Just make it work exactly like that.. but without the bubble..... and costing 100M isk.

OK.. now you can remove local from low sec and 0.0.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Dmitry Wizard
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#138 - 2014-01-31 17:44:57 UTC
The thing is there isnt supposed to be broadcasts in wormhole space. it defies the lore. People Jumping through the gates is what registers them in local. with no gates there's no local. With no local there's no broadcasts

"Wormhole corps are like a bunch of homeschooled kids"
James Arget
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
#139 - 2014-01-31 18:09:25 UTC
Dmitry Wizard wrote:
The thing is there isnt supposed to be broadcasts in wormhole space. it defies the lore. People Jumping through the gates is what registers them in local. with no gates there's no local. With no local there's no broadcasts

How can I talk in local?

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Dmitry Wizard
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#140 - 2014-01-31 18:13:58 UTC
im pertaining to the in game physics of broadcasts. im assuming local would just be inter ship communication. mmmmmm Roleplaying

"Wormhole corps are like a bunch of homeschooled kids"