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In case anybody is harboring the comic-book version of Thanksgiving
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#1 - 2011-11-24 17:50:48 UTC
Know the history

(and how it repeats itself)

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
SpaceSquirrels
#2 - 2011-11-24 18:13:24 UTC
Actually the Indians helped in exchange for help fighting another tribe both directly, and for weapons. The colonists didn't know **** about farming (true) as they attempted to plant corn in a mixture of sand and dirt as they didn't travel far inland.

However are you really going to explain to 8 year olds people were starving,dying of TB, and Cholera and help was only garnered to wipe out another tribe (Which then if captured many of them become slaves to the conquering tribe)

Or you going going to give them the gist/moral "We help one another out and good things happen."
Reason they're called children's stories. I'm sorry if people grow up disgruntled and feel lied to over it rather than figure out...they were told children's stories.
Zions Child
Higashikata Industries
#3 - 2011-11-24 19:27:25 UTC
Well to be fair, if you ever actually listened to the Grimm fairy tales...
Wilhelm Riley
Doomheim
#4 - 2011-11-24 20:54:15 UTC
Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2011-11-25 13:02:10 UTC
SpaceSquirrels wrote:
Actually the Indians helped in exchange for help fighting another tribe both directly, and for weapons. The colonists didn't know **** about farming (true) as they attempted to plant corn in a mixture of sand and dirt as they didn't travel far inland.

However are you really going to explain to 8 year olds people were starving,dying of TB, and Cholera and help was only garnered to wipe out another tribe (Which then if captured many of them become slaves to the conquering tribe)

Or you going going to give them the gist/moral "We help one another out and good things happen."
Reason they're called children's stories. I'm sorry if people grow up disgruntled and feel lied to over it rather than figure out...they were told children's stories.



Why not just wait and tell them when they are more mature, in a histroy class?

No need for a silly story to teach kids good values.
SpaceSquirrels
#6 - 2011-11-25 16:50:59 UTC
Lol you ever been around kids? When they ask WTF is thanksgiving, Christmas etc etc. Are you going to give "Ill tell you when you're older?" And really when do you even learn about the holiday? K- 4th grade? So 6 -10? After that it's not really being "taught". So once again it's a children activity/story more or less.

Or like I said give them the gist of what it's about. Most holidays aren't about being mired in the details. Rather the simplicity of it. Technically two separate peoples came together and helped one another out. Now the details of how and why... But then again most instances in history are this sort of "scratch mine, and ill scratch yours." The altruism on international scale... Not so much there in history.

And now the meaning of the holiday is more or less a reason to gather with your family. And if someone has a moral qualm with that. Well I guess you have a ****** up family... Sorry.
Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2011-11-25 19:45:30 UTC
SpaceSquirrels wrote:
Lol you ever been around kids? When they ask WTF is thanksgiving, Christmas etc etc. Are you going to give "Ill tell you when you're older?" And really when do you even learn about the holiday? K- 4th grade? So 6 -10? After that it's not really being "taught". So once again it's a children activity/story more or less.

Or like I said give them the gist of what it's about. Most holidays aren't about being mired in the details. Rather the simplicity of it. Technically two separate peoples came together and helped one another out. Now the details of how and why... But then again most instances in history are this sort of "scratch mine, and ill scratch yours." The altruism on international scale... Not so much there in history.

And now the meaning of the holiday is more or less a reason to gather with your family. And if someone has a moral qualm with that. Well I guess you have a ****** up family... Sorry.


Then tell them the point of thanksgiving is to get eh family together and spend time together. Its not complicated.

And I guess it is strange that me an all my siblings got higher education and live stable good lives then, and enjoy holidays so we can spend time with family? Since we hold these kinds of values?

Tbh, the whole "you have different values then me, you must be ******, and have had a ****** up upbringing" attitude is quite childish.
SpaceSquirrels
#8 - 2011-11-25 23:26:38 UTC
Nah not different values. You missed the last point.
That of if you have a problem with this part. "the meaning of the holiday is more or less a reason to gather with your family."

Thats what I was referring to. You have a ****** up family...or a person themselves have issues if they have a problem getting together during a holiday. That's not childish rather blatant honesty.