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Why isn t there any walking around stations/ships etc?

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Notorious Fellon
#41 - 2014-01-30 16:46:48 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:

I want WIS so your two cents is wasted.


Many of us have for a very long time.

Crime, it is not a "career", it is a lifestyle.
Seras Victoria Egivand
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2014-01-30 18:11:10 UTC
You know whats funnny....


Games like starwars, Rift, World of warcraft, etc have all managed to get new content where it be new areas to explore + new zones etc...


What do we get New ship redesigned..... Oh some balance changes thats our expansion's.....



Dear CCP

What ever happened to
WIS
What ever happened to destructible ship damage + asteroids?
Hell ill even do one simpler

What ever happened to us being able to change the color of our ships + decals?


The last real content ccp actaully put in game was Incursions..... pathetic.

Moral is games are supposed to evolve.... The game has not evolved....

No offence no one cares about new api's its not 2 hour worthy at fanfest..... Pro tip work on the game that s funding your other games...... Or alas when other games come about like star citizen and so forth your going to wonder where your user base went....
Naydra Adni
Doomheim
#43 - 2014-01-30 18:40:36 UTC
Rhes wrote:
Check my signature for the official CCP stance on WiS.


delete your sig man.. that statement you quote from ccp rise has already been slapped down and negated when more senior CCP staff have said CCP rise does not speak for all of CCP and would do better to keep away from making comments like the one you quote in your sig... it just makes you look desperate like you're grasping lol

so no it is not CCP's official stance on the subject
Ginger Barbarella
#44 - 2014-01-30 19:12:37 UTC
Seras Victoria Egivand wrote:
Or alas when other games come about like star citizen and so forth your going to wonder where your user base went....


You don't see any fundemental flaws in your argument comparing a game that's out NOW and has had 10+ years of growth and expansion to a crowd-funded game that MIGHT be released in 2015??

Tell ya what: when (and if) Star Citizen has been out for a year and is taking paying subscriptions, then you can try to compare it to EveO. Until then, such comparisons and arguments are just foolish. Compare DUST to the early CoD games; but don't try using Star Citizen as your lolragequit argument against EveO.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Mel Lifera
#45 - 2014-01-30 19:22:33 UTC
We don't have WIS because if there was WIS, that would mean we couldn't shoot at each other's ships in space anymore and EVE would be ruined forever. Or at least that's what I picked up from all the threads at the time.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#46 - 2014-01-30 19:29:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
I've never understood the fascination with "WiS". I played Star Trek Online for a good while and the away missions were ok and all, but I could live without them personally. If I want to see strange people walking around and chatting I walk outside and stare at the sidewalk. What i can't do in real life is fly in space thus I play EVE.

I'm glad CCP is focused on EVE's core gameplay even if I don't agree with individual decisions (the latest of which was the ESS).
Grayland Aubaris
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2014-01-30 19:34:40 UTC
Considering how nobody wants WIS I see an awful lot of threads from people asking for WIS.

I really think that there needs to be a proper, official POLL of the eve population on this one, if only so we can put this 'Eveyone wants WIS' and 'Nobody wants WIS' debate to bed finally.

Personally I think it would be good, as it would increase my immersion in the game, though I realize that not everyone would agree.

Also I would like to point out that many of the official trailers and videos from release by CCP recently show character walking around outside of their ships, and although it could be considered artistic licence you have to wonder how many new players have been enticed by those images into the game ...
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#48 - 2014-01-30 20:21:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Erica Dusette
Hatthor wrote:
Is there any talk of letting players explore inside stations, on planets and walking inside ships as well?

Yes, there's been lots of 'talk'.

Lots of flashy videos too, and a ton of promises, for many years. Straight

Rhes wrote:
Check my signature for the official CCP stance on WiS.
I don't know why you continue to try and perpetuate that Rise's comment is any kind of official stance when you're already well aware of the following comment from CCP Aporia (among other similar comments). Rise's comment is in no way at all an official CCP stance, but I guess you'll keep desperately clinging to it as being so because there's no other remotely-"official" opinions you can draw from anywhere that support your personal disdain of WiS.
CCP Aporia wrote:
CCP Rise's opinion voiced during his reddit IamA was reasonable, but just because the focus is mainly on the spaceship game does not mean that nobody here has an interest to make meaningful Avatar gameplay within the EVE universe happen. (-:


45thtiger 0109 wrote:
No one wants WIS in the game anymore so stop bringing up the same crap again and again.

Sorry, but you're very wrong there. Smile

Khergit Deserters wrote:
OP, what happened to WiS was that the players rioted against it. "CCP, this is my blowing-up-spaceships game, don't spend your resources on making space barbies!" And also a lot of wild eyes and foaming at the mouth about the NEX store. A lot of people actually unsubbed after the Incarna release. So apparently CCP dropped the WiS idea.

This is another regularly-peddled misconception. The "riots" were less about WiS and more (all) about NEX and micro-transactions. But it's often been waved around since by the anti-WiS brigade as being "all about WiS". When it wasn't at all. What?

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Kelven Xyn
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2014-01-30 20:44:27 UTC
Rhes wrote:
Check my signature for the official CCP stance on WiS.


Just say Dust,Valkyre and the other MMO CCP is working on.....they had enough time,just wasted it on things no one wants. Especially EvE Players.
Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#50 - 2014-01-30 21:05:58 UTC
Erica Dusette wrote:
I don't know why you continue to try and perpetuate that Rise's comment is any kind of official stance when you're already well aware of the following comment from CCP Aporia (among other similar comments). Rise's comment is in no way at all an official CCP stance, but I guess you'll keep desperately clinging to it as being so because there's no other remotely-"official" opinions you can draw from anywhere that support your personal disdain of WiS.
CCP Aporia wrote:
CCP Rise's opinion voiced during his reddit IamA was reasonable, but just because the focus is mainly on the spaceship game does not mean that nobody here has an interest to make meaningful Avatar gameplay within the EVE universe happen. (-:

They are stringing you along. Having CCP devs say they are "interested" in making meaningful avatar gameplay doesn't mean they are actually planning to do it. I doubt they want a repeat of the Summer of Rage on their hands.

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#51 - 2014-01-30 21:28:59 UTC
Rhes wrote:
Erica Dusette wrote:
I don't know why you continue to try and perpetuate that Rise's comment is any kind of official stance when you're already well aware of the following comment from CCP Aporia (among other similar comments). Rise's comment is in no way at all an official CCP stance, but I guess you'll keep desperately clinging to it as being so because there's no other remotely-"official" opinions you can draw from anywhere that support your personal disdain of WiS.
CCP Aporia wrote:
CCP Rise's opinion voiced during his reddit IamA was reasonable, but just because the focus is mainly on the spaceship game does not mean that nobody here has an interest to make meaningful Avatar gameplay within the EVE universe happen. (-:

They are stringing you along. Having CCP devs say they are "interested" in making meaningful avatar gameplay doesn't mean they are actually planning to do it. I doubt they want a repeat of the Summer of Rage on their hands.

I could say the same though - having a CCP dev who says they are not interested in making meaningful avatar gameplay doesn't mean that they (CCP) aren't actually planning to do it.

I mean afterall, despite it never amounting to anything more than the Captain's Quaters thus far, all signs point to CCP taking this direction eventually. Look at all the videos kicking around, the demos and of course the dreams and promises made by CCP for WiS. There's a ton of evidence to say this is a direction they wish to travel in. Whereas in opposition to WiS there's nothing but a single quote, from a single dev, who doesn't even work in that part of the game.

'Summer rage' had almost nothing to do with WiS or avatar gameplay per se.

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Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2014-01-30 21:55:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Rhes
Erica Dusette wrote:
I could say the same though - having a CCP dev who says they are not interested in making meaningful avatar gameplay doesn't mean that they (CCP) aren't actually planning to do it. .

The only problem for you is that there isn't a single CCP dev currently working on WiS content and there is nothing in their long range planning that indicates that will change in the next five years. Sure, a few of them might wish they could do avatar nonsense but none of them are actually working on it.

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#53 - 2014-01-30 21:59:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Stitcher
How do you know?

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Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2014-01-30 22:03:24 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
How do you know?

I asked my CSM representative to find out. The team that was working on WiS (Team Avatar) was disbanded quite a while ago.

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#55 - 2014-01-30 22:13:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Arduemont
Yea, no one wants WiS. Except all the people who do. Which seems to be most people. Uhuh.

Also, Rhes, your a dumb ass. Haven't your ******** arguements been shot down enough times? Do we really have to go back and find quotes and links to prove you wrong again? Even though your quips haven't changed even slightly? You are literally the stereotypical dogmatic ignoramus.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#56 - 2014-01-30 22:17:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Erica Dusette
I think everyone already knows that though, Rhes.

All that translates to is that it's obviously not a priority right now, and I agree when you say that we probably won't see anything move in the next few years.

But I believe it's still an obvious direction that CCP want to take. They'll probably do it slowly, gradually and cautiously - but they will do it. Smile

And when that day comes Erica will buy you a drink, Rhes. We can sit together in-station, slurping spiced wine, taking in the grand panorama of the system outside while letting out eyes wander around the myriad of sexy walking avatars as they stride past us. And you will see, once you realise nobody is trying to molest you, that there's nothing to be afraid of.

Well, at least not until my 2nd bottle of wine anyway. Twisted

Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!

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Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2014-01-30 22:23:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Rhes
Arduemont wrote:
Yea, no one wants WiS. Except all the people who do. Which seems to be most people. Uhuh.

Also, Rhes, your a dumb ass. Haven't your ******** arguements been shot down enough times? Do we really have to go back and find quotes and links to prove you wrong again? Even though your quips haven't changed even slightly? You are literally the stereotypical dogmatic ignoramus.

Sure. Find me a single quote or link that proves that CCP is actively engaged in working WiS or will begin actively working on it in the next five or so years.

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise
Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#58 - 2014-01-30 22:29:00 UTC
Erica Dusette wrote:
All that translates to is that it's obviously not a priority right now, and I agree when you say that we probably won't see anything move in the next few years.

Exactly but the people who won't shut up about WiS act like they can't live for another minute unless CCP starts adding wizard robes to the game. The WiS fetishists aren't willing to admit that Incarna was a disaster and caused CCP to step back and refocus on actual Eve content.

Or they just start talking about Star Citizen which will probably end up as vaporware but isn't even an MMORPG.

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise
Tarpedo
Incursionista
#59 - 2014-01-30 22:30:56 UTC
Actually I'm grateful to CCP for their lack of initiative and expertise during creation of WiS prototype known as "captain quarters" - because its dull implementation forced me to search for WiS-like gameplay in other games so I've discovered 3 interesting sci-fi MMO games instead of playing EVE non-stop.

Now shiptoasting is my only activity in EVE in between reactivations to purchase new cosmetics.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#60 - 2014-01-30 22:32:06 UTC
Rhes wrote:
Erica Dusette wrote:
All that translates to is that it's obviously not a priority right now, and I agree when you say that we probably won't see anything move in the next few years.

Exactly but the people who won't shut up about WiS act like they can't live for another minute unless CCP starts adding wizard robes to the game. The WiS fetishists aren't willing to admit that Incarna was a disaster and caused CCP to step back and refocus on actual Eve content.

Or they just start talking about Star Citizen which will probably end up as vaporware but isn't even an MMORPG.


You know, I've always found it funny how in any discussion on this subject, there is always a considerable amount of effort dedicated to glossing over the fact that catering to the whims of the WiS crowd in the first place has been the game's greatest catastrophe to date.

And at the same time a lot of "trust me" being thrown around at the same time.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

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