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WARNING: Trolls in Jita are Slandering the Good Name of this Legit ISK Doubler!

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Amrastion Tasartir
Syndicate Enterprise
Sigma Grindset
#321 - 2014-01-30 17:43:07 UTC
ShamedOne wrote:
I just got into the bonus round. I must admit, when he said all assets, it included my adrestia and erebus. I was scared at first, like who would really send me 5x those assets? Well I did, it took him a few hours to sort this isk, and then wow, I have my assets back and now over 800b in my wallet, I mean. Th ebonus round was tons of fun, new friends I read a story, sung PARTY IN THE USA, man. Erotica 1, is my hero. I support him 100% and I suggest you play the game to the full extent!



Thanks for playing the game. o7 to ur t00nie
Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#322 - 2014-01-30 18:24:36 UTC
Except that you're not legit if you use peoples names, when they aren't even in local. And it's pretty dumb too. ^^

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#323 - 2014-01-30 18:30:07 UTC
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
Except that you're not legit if you use peoples names, when they aren't even in local. And it's pretty dumb too. ^^


Lots of people play after hearing of corpmates win (or lose) or because they stumbled onto the game from the forum. In case you haven't heard, I've been doing this for awhile.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Maximillian Stark
Doomheim
#324 - 2014-01-30 18:51:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Maximillian Stark
Hey I'm back, seeing this thread has hit a new page I think I have to post this again. People who genuinely believe this scammer's efforts, don't. The people "admitting" she doubled their money are friends, alts (She has a lot of them, just so you know Pirate) or people who like to troll. Don't give this scammer one tiny bit. She goes in breach with her own rules which is pretty funny. You will never be able to make money off her, ever. Just my honest 2 cents. P

Luffleg wrote:
Dramatic title: Another conspiracy theory!

So, I decided to try this very risky "Game of Iskies" - One of the most frightening "Double isk"-scams to date. I'm not a wealthy guy, but I had enough to make this little experiment.

I deposited 200mil to Erotica's wallet, much to my surprise I actually got the 400mil back pretty quickly, followed by a mail from Erotica giving me 'Thanks' and told me he were going out for a smoke. This is where I had to decide, keep the money or risk it all going further? I risked it, for the community I thought.

He was away for a few minutes and when he came back apparently his wallet had been spammed with .10's and he couldn't verify my deposit.This is where I understood what was truly going on and indeed confirmed the end result of this experiment. As you know, how hard is it to confirm a deposit on, let's say, EVEMon? Takes about 10 seconds, this is where I truly knew that I was stuck in the mud for good.

As I decided to keep going, I needed to PLEX myself some fast iskies in order to reveal his little ".10 wallet-spam-can't-verify-deposit"-stunt.

After about an hour of waiting for the PLEX I was ready to give him another 800mil isk. (Am I crazy you ask? Yes, extremely so. I had already lost the money I had, and again, I might as well go all out as I originally intended.)

So, I made sure he was "watching" and "taking note" of his balance. I made the deposit on his go, he asked me to enter a "tip" on his bounty so I did that as well, I deposited my last 42mil.

TL;DR - So, I gave him some iskies in return for some juicy evidence of his little project. Mostly because I knew that the evidence already provided was lack-luster and could easily be framed as "troll attempts", "failed deposits" or "people don't read the rules.", etc.

Feel free to PM me if you want the "full story" - And if you want to help me recover the losses I've made, feel free to do so. However, don't feel obliged - I did this knowingly and I expect nothing in return from anyone.

PS: I know that this will quickly be accused asa troll attempt, "false accusations" and all that jazz. Just ask yourself one quick question, why would I spend this amount of time to achieve something if it wasn't valid? What do I have to gain, why would I care? --- Exactly. ;)

Much love,
Luffleg.

The Album of pictures:
http://imgur.com/a/6oPdu

Pictures:
http://i.imgur.com/yKZh1QRh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/il4UVU6h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Wn63RIJh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ftEnsCRh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Zyz8jh2h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/aybmPXqh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/M0LWCjq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Qnn3htw.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/GsDSZhY.jpg

Also, just to cover as much angles I can. Here is my timezone which explains +1 hour on transaction logs.
http://i.imgur.com/Kl5Xinb.jpg
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#325 - 2014-01-30 19:23:43 UTC
I remember now. You're the guy who claims someone got you on teamspeak to steal 59m from you. I offered to help you, and this is the thanks I get. Wow.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#326 - 2014-01-30 21:03:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Sabriz Adoudel
Maximillian Stark wrote:
Hey I'm back, seeing this thread has hit a new page I think I have to post this again. People who genuinely believe this scammer's efforts, don't. The people "admitting" she doubled their money are friends, alts (She has a lot of them, just so you know Pirate) or people who like to troll. Don't give this scammer one tiny bit. She goes in breach with her own rules which is pretty funny. You will never be able to make money off her, ever. Just my honest 2 cents. P


I am both a friend of Ero and a troll. Guilty as charged. I am not one of her alts, which have a distinctive naming pattern.

None of this changes the fact that the person you quoted broke two of the rules on their second investment and two (not the same two) on the third, and hence lost the game.

Whether the first investment was within the rules or not will remain a closely guarded trade secret.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Abrei-Kaii
Petrolinvest
#327 - 2014-01-30 23:23:57 UTC
Maximillian Stark wrote:
Hey I'm back, seeing this thread has hit a new page I think I have to post this again. People who genuinely believe this scammer's efforts, don't. The people "admitting" she doubled their money are friends, alts (She has a lot of them, just so you know Pirate) or people who like to troll. Don't give this scammer one tiny bit. She goes in breach with her own rules which is pretty funny. You will never be able to make money off her, ever. Just my honest 2 cents. P



Did you even read my post on the last page >.>

YOU BROKE THE DAMN RULES!!!!!!!!!!! I explained it to you step by step how you broke the rules... Do yourself a favor re-read the rules, then my post >.> You are only making yourself look foolish now :p
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#328 - 2014-01-31 00:29:21 UTC
Wow, this is the first time I've ever seen a Gutter Press article outside of the IGS.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Maximillian Stark
Doomheim
#329 - 2014-01-31 08:09:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Maximillian Stark
Abrei-Kaii wrote:
Maximillian Stark wrote:
Hey I'm back, seeing this thread has hit a new page I think I have to post this again. People who genuinely believe this scammer's efforts, don't. The people "admitting" she doubled their money are friends, alts (She has a lot of them, just so you know Pirate) or people who like to troll. Don't give this scammer one tiny bit. She goes in breach with her own rules which is pretty funny. You will never be able to make money off her, ever. Just my honest 2 cents. P



Did you even read my post on the last page >.>

YOU BROKE THE DAMN RULES!!!!!!!!!!! I explained it to you step by step how you broke the rules... Do yourself a favor re-read the rules, then my post >.> You are only making yourself look foolish now :p


Please go back to school. This is what you said ;


DumbpersonAbreiisomething wrote:
"so the 200m play is legit, she received 400m so her next play would had to been 800m that would have payed 2.4b, Then the next play would have had to been for 4.8B which would have payed 24B.

With that being said, how does 200m, 800m, 4.8B which is what the rules say = 200m, 400m, 800m? Please explain this to me >.>"


Now let's take a look at the scammer's rules ;

erotica1 wrote:
Each investment must be at least 2x what you received just prior.


It has to be at least x2 the amount, not precisly.

It's funny to see you failing in trying to make this scammer look good, just like the rest of you. Pathetic, but funny. P I see it as my duty to protect the fools of New Eden.

Please do some research in English reading before you post again. o7

P.s : I don't mind you for wrongly using the scammer's rules though. The scammer herself goes in breach with them all the time. Pirate

Remember good people, you will never, ever, make money off this scammer.
Abe Atlas
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#330 - 2014-01-31 08:15:55 UTC
Lol you must be extremely stupid to fall for this scammer
MajorEvan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#331 - 2014-01-31 09:26:33 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Scam artist.

To be honest Erotica 1 does sometimes double isk.

However, you have a big chance to lose your isk and get scammed in the process.
Erotica 1 kept my 'donation' because I didn't play the *obligatory 100th player bonus round, which required me to give all my assets to Erotica 1 and his/her helpers

Here is a snippet of chatlog:

*Snip* Please refrain from posting chatlogs. ISD Ezwal.
Maximillian Stark
Doomheim
#332 - 2014-01-31 11:39:59 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
MajorEvan wrote:
Scam artist.

To be honest Erotica 1 does sometimes double isk.

However, you have a big chance to lose your isk and get scammed in the process.
Erotica 1 kept my 'donation' because I didn't play the *obligatory 100th player bonus round, which required me to give all my assets to Erotica 1 and his/her helpers

Here is a snippet of chatlog:

*Snip* Please refrain from posting chatlogs. ISD Ezwal.


Had you given her everything, you would be the first real person ever to fall into her dumb bonus round scam, she was right about that you would become famous though, you would become famous for your stupidity. Good thing you didn't do that.

Also, those "escrow agents" are her alts. She uses no other persons in her scam, it's just her and an army of alts. Pirate

Btw, she only doubles low amounts of money when she knows that the player will certainly play and lose more. She has rules that are infact no rules as she breaches them as she sees fit, she isn't putting any attention to them.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#333 - 2014-01-31 11:46:03 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Maximillian Stark wrote:
[quote=MajorEvan]Scam artist.

To be honest Erotica 1 does sometimes double isk.

However, you have a big chance to lose your isk and get scammed in the process.
Erotica 1 kept my 'donation' because I didn't play the *obligatory 100th player bonus round, which required me to give all my assets to Erotica 1 and his/her helpers

Here is a snippet of chatlog:

*Snip* Please refrain from posting chatlogs. ISD Ezwal.

Had you given her everything, you would be the first real person ever to fall into her dumb bonus round scam, she was right about that you would become famous though, you would become famous for your stupidity. Good thing you didn't do that.

Also, those "escrow agents" are her alts. She uses no other persons in her scam, it's just her and an army of alts. Pirate

Btw, she only doubles low amounts of money when she knows that the player will certainly play and lose more. She has rules that are infact no rules as she breaches them as she sees fit, she isn't putting any attention to them.


I've been in bonus rounds where someone has lost 10.4 billion, I've been in bonus rounds where someone has won 22.4 billion. (Well a bit less because that included their 4.5 odd billion investment, so they were up 18).

It's all a matter of faith.

As you sound like a sceptic, you should probably not participate in a bonus round yourself. I think you would break a rule quickly and disqualify yourself.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#334 - 2014-01-31 16:19:14 UTC
Ah, another guy who seems to think everyone in this game is my alt, except for him.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Thius Taxus Thellere
Blueprint Mania
#335 - 2014-01-31 16:30:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Thius Taxus Thellere
Maximillian Stark wrote:
Hey I'm back, seeing this thread has hit a new page I think I have to post this again. People who genuinely believe this scammer's efforts, don't. The people "admitting" she doubled their money are friends, alts (She has a lot of them, just so you know Pirate) or people who like to troll. Don't give this scammer one tiny bit. She goes in breach with her own rules which is pretty funny. You will never be able to make money off her, ever. Just my honest 2 cents. P

Luffleg wrote:
Dramatic title: Another conspiracy theory!

So, I decided to try this very risky "Game of Iskies" - One of the most frightening "Double isk"-scams to date. I'm not a wealthy guy, but I had enough to make this little experiment.

I deposited 200mil to Erotica's wallet, much to my surprise I actually got the 400mil back pretty quickly, followed by a mail from Erotica giving me 'Thanks' and told me he were going out for a smoke. This is where I had to decide, keep the money or risk it all going further? I risked it, for the community I thought.

He was away for a few minutes and when he came back apparently his wallet had been spammed with .10's and he couldn't verify my deposit.This is where I understood what was truly going on and indeed confirmed the end result of this experiment. As you know, how hard is it to confirm a deposit on, let's say, EVEMon? Takes about 10 seconds, this is where I truly knew that I was stuck in the mud for good.

As I decided to keep going, I needed to PLEX myself some fast iskies in order to reveal his little ".10 wallet-spam-can't-verify-deposit"-stunt.

After about an hour of waiting for the PLEX I was ready to give him another 800mil isk. (Am I crazy you ask? Yes, extremely so. I had already lost the money I had, and again, I might as well go all out as I originally intended.)

So, I made sure he was "watching" and "taking note" of his balance. I made the deposit on his go, he asked me to enter a "tip" on his bounty so I did that as well, I deposited my last 42mil.

TL;DR - So, I gave him some iskies in return for some juicy evidence of his little project. Mostly because I knew that the evidence already provided was lack-luster and could easily be framed as "troll attempts", "failed deposits" or "people don't read the rules.", etc.

Feel free to PM me if you want the "full story" - And if you want to help me recover the losses I've made, feel free to do so. However, don't feel obliged - I did this knowingly and I expect nothing in return from anyone.

PS: I know that this will quickly be accused asa troll attempt, "false accusations" and all that jazz. Just ask yourself one quick question, why would I spend this amount of time to achieve something if it wasn't valid? What do I have to gain, why would I care? --- Exactly. ;)

Much love,
Luffleg.

The Album of pictures:
http://imgur.com/a/6oPdu

Pictures:
http://i.imgur.com/yKZh1QRh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/il4UVU6h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Wn63RIJh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ftEnsCRh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Zyz8jh2h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/aybmPXqh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/M0LWCjq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Qnn3htw.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/GsDSZhY.jpg

Also, just to cover as much angles I can. Here is my timezone which explains +1 hour on transaction logs.
http://i.imgur.com/Kl5Xinb.jpg


You're wrong. Ero 1 doubled my ISK from 50m to 100m. All I had was 80m but if I had enough to keep playing I'm sure she would have doubled. Legit.
Thius Taxus Thellere
Blueprint Mania
#336 - 2014-01-31 16:31:34 UTC
And I'm not an alt or a friend. Just a satisfied customer.
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#337 - 2014-01-31 16:35:50 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
Ah, another guy who seems to think everyone in this game is my alt, except for him.

I am not Erotica 1's alt.
I don't think.

:: checks mirror ::
Nope. Definately not.

Probably ought to pay more attention to the rules, folks. Can't win unless you play; can't play if you don't follow the rules.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#338 - 2014-02-01 00:29:21 UTC
I have edited some posts.

The rules:
33. Posting of chat logs outside the Crime & Punishment forum channel is prohibited.

The posting of chat logs between player parties is prohibited on all forum channels of the EVE Online forums, with the exception of the Crime & Punishment Channel where they can be posted as part of stories in the Pirate Story Thread.
Specific rules regarding the omission of pilot names apply in this instance. Further details can be found in the rules stickies in the Crime & Punishment forum channel.

ISD Ezwal Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#339 - 2014-02-01 00:32:27 UTC
ISD, I give express permission to anyone that wants to post chat logs of me, or forged chat logs claiming to be me, in this thread todo so.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#340 - 2014-02-01 00:51:04 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
ISD, I give express permission to anyone that wants to post chat logs of me, or forged chat logs claiming to be me, in this thread todo so.
That's quite nice of you.
However, the rules state quite clearly it is not allowed. And that, in the end, is the only thing that counts.

ISD Ezwal Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)