Wormholes

I am uncertain whether the combined effect of the following modules CCP has released with Rubicon 1.1 was intentional or not, but let's examine WHAT CCP released this patch:

-ESS Module, early warning for bears in wh space (not sure if intended). It broadcasts in local whenever someone jumps into a wormhole its anchored near. This means for only 25 million isk, you don't even have to have an alt watching your static to know someone has scouted your escalation/site running fleet!

-Mobile D-Scan Inhibitor--Caps? What caps? Just a few random wrecks all over the place...

To be honest, while in an escalation site, most likely wrecks will be out of range of the d-scan inhibitor (maybe not if you position your caps, webs, and module right), but sometimes they might not. Keep in mind, the bears ALREADY, have early warning, so now your scout has to dscan EVERY site and then WARP to it if these modules are up to determine if caps/site ships/a noctis are even out... meaning bears don't even have to actively watch local, bu only glance at it occasionally, to effectively get away....

-Mobile Micro Jump unit--I hope your interceptors favor scrams over long point, otherwise, that tengu ball you just bubbled will be gone in about 12 seconds.... Also, caps get tackled? Well, any subcaps are definitely getting away... unless your give up long points for scrams.

Rubicon 1.1 should have been called "Bears Iceskating in Wh Space," because that is exactly what CCP has created.

In summary:
-ESS: warly warning
-D can inhibitor: hunting delay--ensures get away
-Micro Jump Unit: completely fail? That's ok. EVE really isn't harsh anymore. We'll give you a module that ignores bubbles and points, and you can still get your tengu ball to safety.

This is broken CCP, FFS....

Update #1: I forgot to mention, has everyone forgotten we all get a new sig that appears on dscan whenever someone rolls into you? People have already gotten easy-mode warning of an incoming connection without the need to manage probes....

I mean, when I joined wormhole space, it was dangerous... It seems like CCP has repeatedly undermined this danger, even in an environment that is the MOST ISK-RICH IN GAME. ISK availability and risk should go hand in hand. I completely and absolutely oppose anything, intentional or not, that makes w-space less safe, even if it means my own corp/myself loosing shinies.

Ganking site runners isn't all I do, but it is something I do and it is valid.

The mobile d-scan inhibitor will delay getting eyes on a fleet who just got an early warning--and not all bears crit their static. They won't even need to with an ESS deployed. If we get a scout through someone's static and they've been escalating, its likely their noctis may be behind a site or two... meaning thats more clusters of wrecks we'd have to warp to in order to locate caps... That's a delay, with a fleet that just got an early warning....

I have no problem with people getting away who are smart, but EVE shouldn't have an easy mode, and this is not just easy mode, this is putting carebears on God-mode properly setup.

All it does is make wormhole space even less dangerous and wild. It isn't right. It isn't wormhole.

You assume a lot, and I'm just pointing out that the current system can be manipulated in a way that (I hope) CCP did not intend.

Also, I really see some groups keeping the micro-jump drive anchored at each site, and just paying for it out of site proceeds. There was a time in my EVE career I would have, and I know bears who would today. The potential for unlimited, unharassed carebearing in absolute safety with these combined modules is staggering.

I would completely support more modules that countered these.

Its not so much the inhibition, as the early warning and delay these modules cause in hunting, if you had actually read the original post--and its update. To get kills on the risk-averse multitude of zombified wormhole bears, you have to be quick, and this is fundamentally changing wormhole space.

Also, our new, open K162 already gives early warning enough. The ESS provides warning to people who are being lazy by broadcasting in local--and there's already a threadnought in formation about it.

Smart arse.

Did you test this before you opened your trap?

Test more, write less.

Just because you open into a new chain, doesn't mean the chain is new. We've had plenty of ganks happen because they didn't know we'd opened up further down the pipe.

I think the point Rall is trying to make, is that if you don't know the ESS is on the other side of a hole you just found, if the people who set it up are running sites, they'll be behind shields before you're out of the bubble. The ESS has had the (apparently) unintended side effect of providing true bears with a 'fire-and-almost-forget' radar. The only exception is of course, sieged/triaged capitals, but honestly, I don't see this being that big of a deal in c5 and c6 space. Only silly people who aren't fond of their capitals run sites without a proper scout, or a severely reduced static.

The D-scan inhibitor? Wouldn't want to dump ANY of those on my escalation fleet, because I can't see out, and that's not worth the trade of someone seeing in. I'd rather them see me, and me see them, instead of having surprise Bhaalgorns, you know?

The MMJD is a gimic at best.

I don't see life changing much in proper wormhole space. The ESS might have the largest impact, but don't must of us find it hilarious when null dwellers panic when neutrals are in system? Imagine knowing and not being able to see them at all...

So you're saying you DIDN'T test it?

So, has anyone actually used an ESS defensively so they can POS up their shinies before the nasty men land on grid to kick down their sandcastles or is this all just unsustainable reactionary opinion about something that hasn't happened yet?

I'm not saying it shouldn't be changed. I'm saying creating another rant thread based on hypotheticals probably isn't the most inspired way of dealing with it.